Tim Tebow = Steve McNair...?

[grunt]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

QB's change their mechanics coming out of college all the time. Aaron Rodgers is another prime example. Just depends on now drastic the change is. In some cases the QB's simply are successful despite their mechanics. Imo, at times the whole mechanics thing is overrated.

What is wrong with Tebow throwing mechanics?

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by catcatch22

Are you kidding me none of those guys had the same horrible throwing motion Tebow had at all. Now your just making things up using the best QB's to justify Tebow's success.

Phillip Rivers? You think his throwing mechanics are text book? That was a HUGE question mark in his being drafted.

Kerry Collins had and still does to a lesser extend a huge hitch in his delivery coming out of college. McNabb as well.

Drew Brees due to his lack of arm strength had to really wind up to get the ball down the field. He actually improved his core strength which helped his ability to get the ball downfield, and he throws the ball with much greater anticipation to overcome this as well.

[grunt]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

Phillip Rivers? You think his throwing mechanics are text book? That was a HUGE question mark in his being drafted. Kerry Collins had and still does to a lesser extend a huge hitch in his delivery coming out of college. McNabb as well. Drew Brees due to his lack of arm strength had to really wind up to get the ball down the field. He actually improved his core strength which helped his ability to get the ball downfield, and he throws the ball with much greater anticipation to overcome this as well.

Did Rivers have a quasi side arm delivery coming out of college.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

What is wrong with Tebow throwing mechanics?

I think the knock on him is he brings the ball low before he throws and sort of winds up, creating a hitch. As you know in the NFL, that hitch allows defenders the chance to get a jump on where he's going with the ball. With NFL defenses being so fast, having an ultra quick release has really become a premium. They've worked on him keeping the ball higher and eliminating that hitch.

Some guys can overcome it and lessen the hitch, some guys can't and some guys can be succesful despite it. It remains to be seen where Tebow falls.

But this notion he simply can't throw, I just don't understand.

[catcatch22]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cebby

Did you ever watch either Tebow or Crouch? There is absolutely nothing similar about. Tebow wasn't a poor thrower. He's not ready to be a drop back passer in the NFL, but he's finished in the top four of passer rating nationally every year he's started. Crouch was an abysmal passer in every way. Obviously Tebow had better offensive talent around him, but as stated, he also played against much better talent and coaches. Both Tebow and Crouch could run, but their running styles weren't remotely similar. Tebow is a tank who is used in short yardage and only really breaks away when defenses sell out. Crouch was much quicker and was far more agile than Tebow could ever hope to be.

I am 32 and yes I watched them both play. They were similar in that they both ran the football well, Crouch with speed and Tebow with Power. Both were not graceful throwers of the football.

Now your gonna give me passer ratings as means of success. I could give you a whole laundry list of QB's who had great numbers but failed in the NFL because in reality they were system qb's. Tebow is a great college quarterback and does not need success in the NFL to validate it. I don't know why people need to defend that.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

Did Rivers have a quasi side arm delivery coming out of college.

His delivery was even lower out of college. It's not really side arm, he sort of pushes the ball out of his hand instead of a more natural throwing motion.

The story is, when he was a kid (his dad was a coach) he was a ball boy, and the ball was to big for him to throw, so he threw it like that, and that throwing action stuck with him.

[Cebby]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

Did Rivers have a quasi side arm delivery coming out of college.

Yes

It was bad enough that coming out of high school Auburn and Alabama wanted him for tight end or defense.

[Cyros]

Ball security was another issue with Tebow's throwing motion since he drops it below his waist.