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Old 11-11-2010, 02:11 PM   #1
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Icon5 QBs w/SuperBowl Rings --> Overrated?

It's been discussed within threads but the topic has never had its own thread so...

I see both sides in that football is a team sport and an unjust weight/glory is applied to QBs w/rings compared to those without but at the same time the team goes as QB play does. If a QB is playing horrible, the team will go nowhere (see: 2009 Carolina Panthers -- #1 running game, stout defense, horrible QB).

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Re: QBs w/SuperBowl Rings --> Overrated?

If someone says that the measuring stick for a great QB is Super Bowl rings, they are saying that Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino
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If someone says that the measuring stick for a great QB is Super Bowl rings, they are saying that Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino
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Re: QBs w/SuperBowl Rings --> Overrated?

Overrated in the same sense that no one would argue in their right mind that Deion Branch > Randy Moss or Timmy Smith > LT.
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Re: QBs w/SuperBowl Rings --> Overrated?

I think it's a reasonable tiebreaker when comparing QB's who's stats are very close to each other's if one QB has a ring and the other doesn't.

But it's not the end all, be all, because as was mentioned nobody would argue Dilfer is a better QB than Marino or something absurd like that.
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:45 PM   #6
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Re: QBs w/SuperBowl Rings --> Overrated?

i don't think quarterbacks with super bowl rings are overrated, especially because the presence of the ring on his finger typically doesn't always validate his career.

no one thinks trent dilfer is a great quarterback or a stud. similarly, no one thinks dan marino is a slouch because he didn't win.

the problem comes if someone thinks that's all that matters, or devalues a guy because he didn't win, while not giving credit for what he did accomplish.
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Re: QBs w/SuperBowl Rings --> Overrated?

It's crazy isn't it. Peyton would get trashed before he finally got over the hump, first beating New England and then finally winning the SB. For instance take Rivers, Eli and Ben. To me, no question Rivers is the better QB out of all 3 yet the other 2 have SBs and one has multiple. Interesting nonetheless.
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Re: QBs w/SuperBowl Rings --> Overrated?

The thing is, so many of the great quarterbacks of the last several decades do have rings, so it is easy to discriminate against the guys who don't have them.

For instance, these are the last 18 Super Bowl winning quarterbacks:

Troy Aikman - MVP
Troy Aikman
Steve Young - MVP
Troy Aikman
Brett Favre
John Elway
John Elway - MVP
Kurt Warner - MVP
Trent Dilfer
Tom Brady - MVP
Brad Johnson
Tom Brady - MVP
Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger
Peyton Manning - MVP
Eli Manning - MVP
Ben Roethlisberger
Drew Brees - MVP

Now, besides Dilfer and Johnson, the rest of those guys are pretty damn good, most of which are/were great. Also, the quarterbacks in question were the game's MVP exactly half of the time.

It is getting to the point in today's NFL where it is extremely difficult to win a Super Bowl without a very good, to an elite quarterback. The fact that there are so many great quarterbacks playing right now is a testament to that. I can't think of any other time in NFL history where there were so many superb signal callers playing at the same time with a handful of young quarterbacks on the rise as well.

So, to answer the question: No. Quarterbacks with Super Bowl rings are not overrated, but perhaps some of the ones without them (especially over the last several decades) are probably underrated due to the abundance of talent at the position.
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