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Old 01-09-2012, 05:27 PM   #41
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Re: NFC Divisional Weekend: New Orleans Saints @ San Francisco 49ers

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So the team the 49ers have faced with an offense most like the Saints is..... The Cowboys?!?!? Yeah not really. I'd say the Lions.

They barely pulled out a 1 point win over the Eagles, after being down 20-3 in the 2nd half. They beat the Bengals on the road. They beat the Giants. They beat the Lions on the road. They beat Pittsburgh at home.

Say what you want about eh Niners, but they have beaten some decent teams and on the East Coast no less.

You know how many teams the Patriots have beaten this year above .500??

None.

Just sayin.
Cowboys have several weapons to spread guys out along with a good QB to get things done, and decent RBs at the time. Pretty similar to the Saints imo in relations to the weapons they have to spread a team out, the Saints will just take it a few steps farther with 4-5 WRs who are capable of making a play, an Elite TE, Sproles/Pierre out of the backfield.

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Old 01-09-2012, 05:40 PM   #42
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Cowboys have several weapons to spread guys out along with a good QB to get things done, and decent RBs at the time. Pretty similar to the Saints imo in relations to the weapons they have to spread a team out, the Saints will just take it a few steps farther with 4-5 WRs who are capable of making a play, an Elite TE, Sproles/Pierre out of the backfield.

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I think you are overvaluing the Cowboys offense immensely to compare them to the Saints.
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I think you are overvaluing the Cowboys offense immensely to compare them to the Saints.
I'm not i'm just saying there are similarities in certain ways more then most of the other opponents they've played.
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:49 PM   #44
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I'm not i'm just saying there are similarities in certain ways more then most of the other opponents they've played.
Ok gotcha.

Bein a huge Niner fan, and you are obviosly a Saints fan, Im just hopin for a competitive game without any talk of officials being involved.

I dont think the Niners will win, but I think they can make it closer than most expect.

The NFL playoffs are a funny thing though, and the Saints look much more average outdoors regardless of the temperature.
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I think you are overvaluing the Cowboys offense immensely to compare them to the Saints.
How do you figure?

As far as WR's go they have three guys now with the emergence of Laurent Robinson that would be # 1's on most NFL teams. If Dez Bryant would fix his attitude and actually run his routes instead of using pure ability to beat out defenders he's a top five wide-out in this league. So you have three extremely talented wideout's and a great TE. On the receiving side the Cowboys are stacked, the only difference is the Saints benefit from having a better QB.
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How do you figure?

As far as WR's go they have three guys now with the emergence of Laurent Robinson that would be # 1's on most NFL teams. If Dez Bryant would fix his attitude and actually run his routes instead of using pure ability to beat out defenders he's a top five wide-out in this league. So you have three extremely talented wideout's and a great TE. On the receiving side the Cowboys are stacked, the only difference is the Saints benefit from having a better QB.
Miles Austin, highly overrated.

Dez Bryant cant seem to remove his head from his behind.

Laurent Robinson may be an emerging star, but to say he could be most teams #1 is a huge stretch. He benefits from extra coverage on Bryant and Witten.

Witten is a great TE, but not the same type of TE that Graham is. They have completely different skillsets.

You then have Payton who is a great playcaller vs Garrett, who is plain vanillla and conservative.

If the Cowboys offense was so great as you think, they woulda been more than a below average 8-8 team.
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Also, cant mention offense without probably the most overlooked important part, the O-Line.

The Dallas Oline is atrocious compared to the Saints.
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Miles Austin, highly overrated.

Dez Bryant cant seem to remove his head from his behind.

Laurent Robinson may be an emerging star, but to say he could be most teams #1 is a huge stretch. He benefits from extra coverage on Bryant and Witten.

Witten is a great TE, but not the same type of TE that Graham is. They have completely different skillsets.

You then have Payton who is a great playcaller vs Garrett, who is plain vanillla and conservative.

If the Cowboys offense was so great as you think, they woulda been more than a below average 8-8 team.

The key word was "Offense" which I didn't use, I used WR's. Graham and Witten having different skill sets? You mean their both great receiving TE's?? Not saying Witten is better than Graham but he's definitely top tier. Grahams pass blocking has improved but is definitely not better than Wittens.

I do have to agree with you though Miles Austin is overrated- if you consider 3 TD's and 143 yards against one of the best defenses in the league overrated. I think your forgetting the WR's rely on the QB to get them the ball. You can't say because the the Cowboys are 8-8 they have sub par receivers? (I can't believe I'm defending the Cowboys...)
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