NFL Off Topic

[slickdtc]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chip Douglass

I've heard this many times on this forum and still don't understand the logic. For one, this isn't baseball-style sabermetric analysis on an individual level. This is team analysis using the pretty simple concept of margin of victory, adjusted for strength of schedule. MOV + SOS is the basis of any advanced team ranking system in any sport. Buffalo grades out well in both systems because they had a +111 point differential while playing a set of collectively good opponents. The AFC East in 2004 was a brutally tough division.

I just remember that Bills team as being something like .500 through 10 or so games. I remember getting on a roll and then that damn PIT game.

We were hot. Any mediocrity we showed through the first half of the season we corrected, only to shrivel up & die when the pressure was at its top. Doesn't surprise me we graded out well overall.

But that's the type of scenario that will still see the Bills make it had this proposed format be in place. I don't mind rewarding a team that went like 5-1 down the stretch or whatever we pulled off in the second half of that season. That's just my stance on it, "everyone gets a ribbon" mentality I support here. I just love seeing playoff games.

PPM is probably right though, they're going to expand it to 8 teams per conference eventually. Might as well get it over with, maximize those profits.

[Psyblast]

Quote: Originally Posted by TracerBullet

Today I learned something new: Rasean Mathis was taken out of the game after a head injury in today's game. Detroit's doctors cleared him. He still wasn't able to return to the field however, because Chicago's doctors did not clear him. They had final say because they responded first. Did not know the other team's docs could have control like that.

What? There's no way that can possibly be correct...is there? That's ****ing ridiculous if that's true.

[SPTO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Psyblast

What? There's no way that can possibly be correct...is there? That's ****ing ridiculous if that's true.

I agree, that sounds very fishy and an easy way for opposing teams to manipulate the outcome of games.

[55]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chrisksaint

You can't use those weird advanced stats in football it just doesn't work out. I know there are all kinds of stats out there, but football is one of those sports where what you see tells you way more then what some computer is going to tell you.

People used to say the same thing about baseball not too long ago and now EVERY team in MLB uses advanced stats and sabermetrics in their scouting systems.

[ubernoob]

Quote: Originally Posted by 55

People used to say the same thing about baseball not too long ago and now EVERY team in MLB uses advanced stats and sabermetrics in their scouting systems.

Baseball is a much more individualized game where your performance (save for some counting stats) doesn't rely on your teammates performances. It's much easier (and more worthwhile) to quantify Baseball through advanced metrics.

That's not to say they are worthless in football, but definitely not something to base arguments around.

[OSUFan_88]

Individually, I think that advanced metrics work very well. But team stats don't tell much as far as being able to see what's coming.

I like them, but they need more refining. I will say, the Browns are supposedly really big into them right now, and they are seeing results on the field with their players using them.

[gopher_guy]

Edit: late

[ProfessaPackMan]

SOS is only most effective when it's used in proper context, especially since it relies on factors out of your team's control.

I'm a fan of advanced stats but even they can only go so far(just like "regular" stats)when there's no context involved, especially in the NFL.