Real life examples where the individual is greater than the team...

[Dog]

There should be no examples.

It's impossible in the NFL because a player doesn't play more than one side of the ball most of the time. There are 3 phases and all 3 are important. Unless Clay Matthews can also play TE and play on all special teams plays, he really only impacts one phase.

But that's modern. There might be some examples from, say, 50+ years ago


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[ProfessaPackMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dog

There should be no examples. It's impossible in the NFL because a player doesn't play more than one side of the ball most of the time. There are 3 phases and all 3 are important. Unless Clay Matthews can also play TE and play on all special teams plays, he really only impacts one phase. But that's modern. There might be some examples from, say, 50+ years ago Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

See Packers vs. Dolphins in 2010 to see how valuable Clay Matthews was/is to us.

At least that's what I guess the topic is supposed to me based on some of the responses in here.

[Dog]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

See Packers vs. Dolphins in 2010 to see how valuable Clay Matthews was/is to us. At least that's what I guess the topic is supposed to me based on some of the responses in here.

Oh I agree, but he can't carry the offense and special teams as well


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[ProfessaPackMan]

Of course he can't but I think was the OP is asking(again it's hard to tell what's they're asking for that's why I just went by what the other responses in here were)is to give an example where one player's impact/performance/importance was more important than what the Offense/Defense/Special Teams did or at least had a bigger impact and there are plenty of examples of that happening over the years.

That's why I brought up the Clay Matthews example because in that particular game, Offense/Special Teams didn't have nothing to do with that loss. Having a lack of pass rush did and unfortunately at that time, he was our only real threat of a pass rusher.

Yeah, all 3 phases are "important"(although it depends on the team)but you can usually tell which phase is more "important" than the other.

[Dog]

I think I have to disagree then. One guy doesn't win or lose you a game IMO


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[OSUFan_88]

Quote: Originally Posted by goh

After Jim Brown I can't name another player off the top of my head on that 64/65 Browns team and they made back to back title games,winning in 64.

Yeah, not like there were guys like Ernie Green, Gary Collins, Paul Warfield, Dr Frank Ryan, Lou Groza, Gene Hickerson, Jim Houston, and Leroy Kelly on the team...

[ProfessaPackMan]

You're think about in simplistic terms.

Put it like this, there are cases of where one player(depending on the player obviously)can significantly impact your chances of winning a game.

Of course the easy(if you're an optimistic, glass half full type of person)thing to say is "Well, if the Coaches have everyone prepared, then they'll have a chance" but as we know, it doesn't always happen like that. Now if you built your team properly or well enough to withstand losing a very important player then yeah, you'll be OK(see 2008 Patriots)but again not every team is like that.

Of course this is all assuming this is what the OP is asking for from folks otherwise I typed all of that for nothing, lol.