Week 14: Indianapolis Colts (8-4) @ Cleveland Browns (7-5)

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Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

You know they're winning right?

Hoyer doesn't play defense. Just sayin.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by kaletore11

Yes, but that hardly has anything to do with him.

And who's to say John's line wouldn't read worse? 3 picks from him and this score is vastly tilted.

Sometimes the "best chance to win" is who will make the least amount of mistakes.

[kaletore11]

And who's to say Johnny wouldn't have 4 td's and the game would already be won?
We can do this for hours.

I don't really care about either of them or the Browns, but I just find it funny how people are saying Hoyer deserves to start and the Browns are winning WITH him, when they would actually be better with almost any other qb. Maybe Johnny is horrible and they know it and don't want to play him, dunno. But Hoyer isn't even mediocre.

[Steven78]

Browns gonna blow this.

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7-6. Nice choke job. Exactly as scripted..

[IlliniM1ke]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

And who's to say John's line wouldn't read worse? 3 picks from him and this score is vastly tilted. Sometimes the "best chance to win" is who will make the least amount of mistakes.

Could be but Hoyer killed them today, the defense played phenomenally and they were dominant until the 3rd quarter when Hoyer couldn't keep the offense on the field by sustaining any drives and they got worn down. This was all defense and a little Crowell today.

Hoyer isn't the answer, the Browns aren't going to the playoffs, stop delaying the inevitable give the team to Manziel and get him ready for next season.

[Steven78]

Cmon Cleveland you had him dead to rights on 4th down.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by CardsFan27

Could be but Hoyer killed them today, the defense played phenomenally and they were dominant until the 3rd quarter when Hoyer couldn't keep the offense on the field by sustaining any drives and they got worn down. This was all defense and a little Crowell today. Hoyer isn't the answer, the Browns aren't going to the playoffs, stop delaying the inevitable give the team to Manziel and get him ready for next season.

Yea, I agree and don't dispute that at all.

I just think it's just as unfair to assume Manziel would have have come in and done differently.


I said it last week but to reiterate. We only saw him in garbage time against a prevent defense.

He will start next week now that the Browns are pretty much eliminated and we will see how it goes from there.