Week 3 MNF: Kansas City Chiefs (1-1) @ Green Bay Packers 2-0)

[ubernoob]

That was a fun game.

Chiefs were lucky to be somewhat in it at halftime, we should have crushed them with those stat splits.

[TheMatrix31]

The constant ranking and reassessing of players by sports fans is incredibly pointless, stupid, and quite frankly, annoying.

Aaron Rodgers is ****ing insane. No need to go any further.

[roadman]

Good game Chief fans.

I thought the Chiefs OL was better than what I saw last night, but give credit to our OL and DL for getting sacks and not giving up much on our end.

[muggins]

I only had the game on for a few minutes, but did it seem like they were doing weird **** with the camera?

[areobee401]

Quote: Originally Posted by BleacherBum2310

Super Bowls are a team thing. The argument for Rodgers is his peak.

Why is it ok to credit hockey goalies and pitchers in baseball for team achievements but not quarterbacks? Or on the flip side lack of success in those areas. Pitchers and goalies are constantly judged by their post season record and success beyond the regular season, but when I see the same done to quarterbacks, it's always the team achievement argument. This is not to say I agree that quarterbacks should be, just that I can understand why doing so is valid if we're being fair.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by areobee401

Why is it ok to credit hockey goalies and pitchers in baseball for team achievements but not quarterbacks? Or on the flip side lack of success in those areas. Pitchers and goalies are constantly judged by their post season record and success beyond the regular season, but when I see the same done to quarterbacks, it's always the team achievement argument. This is not to say I agree that quarterbacks should be, just that I can understand why doing so is valid if we're being fair.

It's almost the same in Basketball, depending on the player.

[redsox4evur]

Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan

It's almost the same in Basketball, depending on the player.

Exactly Lebron was never going to be considered GOAT with 0 championships. If Rodgers puts up numbers close to that of Brady/Montana people will take Brady/Montana because of his rings. He would be considered with the likes of Favre and Peyton. A guy that was great in the regular season but didn't do much in the postseason. And as mestevo said, QB play has a higher impact on team success than positions like WR, HB, DB, etc.

[dsallupinyaarea]

He won the MVP over Watt last year based solely on the "QB has more impact on the game than any other position." argument but when folks bring up his, relative, lack of playoff success suddenly W/Ls in football become all about the team.


We pick and choose when football is a team game based on if we like the QB or not.