NHL 2024 Offseason

[Majingir]

Welcome losers to the 2024 offseason.

First one in Utah Ice/Yeti/Hockey Club/Whatever they name it history.

That's my big bet for the offseason is that team just going crazy with moves. 50m in cap space while you have 11/20 guys signed to deals already. They could easily add 2 or 3 top line guys to this team.

Potential UFAs like Reinhart, Stamkos, Guentzel. Not the biggest FA class this year as next year could be the big one depending on who re-signs. Names like Crosby, Tavares, Marner and more are UFAs in 2025.

[Psyblast]

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict that Sidney Crosby will never see the open market as a UFA.

[Majingir]

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Leafs end of season pressers were interesting.

Some guys give the generic "we gave it our all and we were close to winning the series" lines, others you could tell were bothered by it.

People speculating based on reactions that Keefe possibly has told guys he's not coming back (or maybe Shanahan or Treliving told guys). Keefe didn't hold an end of season meeting with the players.

And adding on to this, Treliving and possibly Shanahans end of season stuff won't happen until Thursday. Given what happened last year where we didn't hear from Shanahan until after the Dubas stuff, I could see Keefe being gone by tomorrow.

Edit- To make things more interesting, the management date has been changed to Friday. Something has to be up.

People online seem to want Berube as coach if Keefe is gone. I know Gallant was a name people wanted last season, so we'll see which candidates emerge if Keefe is gone.

[Majingir]

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Rick Bowness retires as a coach.

How long had he been in the league? He's the last active coach from the 80s.

He played against, coached, and coached against Randy Carlyle!

[Majingir]

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Sheldon Keefe has been fired!

3 years too late but still about time!

Somehow he was one of the longest tenured coaches in the league. Only 4 coaches are left in the league who were hired BEFORE the 20/21 season!

[Psyblast]

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Shanahan basically said everything except explicitly stating they were going to explore options re: the core four this summer.

If we assume Matthews is untouchable and Tavares is untouchable (for very different reasons), the obvious choice would be to trade Marner over Nylander, right?

Even then, if you get Marner to waive his NTC, and you find a trade partner he will agree to sign an extension with (an obvious prerequisite for any trade, no team will give up anything unless the deal includes an extension)...what sort of return would make Toronto fans happy?

[Majingir]

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Shanahan basically said everything except explicitly stating they were going to explore options re: the core four this summer.

If we assume Matthews is untouchable and Tavares is untouchable (for very different reasons), the obvious choice would be to trade Marner over Nylander, right?

Even then, if you get Marner to waive his NTC, and you find a trade partner he will agree to sign an extension with (an obvious prerequisite for any trade, no team will give up anything unless the deal includes an extension)...what sort of return would make Toronto fans happy?

Getting rid of his salary would be a win.

But in general, I'd say a top line dman or #1 goalie, and they need prospect depth too.

[bhurst99]

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If we assume Matthews is untouchable and Tavares is untouchable (for very different reasons), the obvious choice would be to trade Marner over Nylander, right?

Even then, if you get Marner to waive his NTC, and you find a trade partner he will agree to sign an extension with (an obvious prerequisite for any trade, no team will give up anything unless the deal includes an extension)...what sort of return would make Toronto fans happy?

That's the issue: Marner has to waive his no trade clause. Only way he does that is if the team acquiring him signs him to a huge deal. And then the Leafs have to find a trade partner that is willing to deal away a top offensive defenseman (not draft picks) to get him. That's going to be very challenging. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that they trade away Marner for less than fair value and miss the playoffs without his regular season production. You can't expect Matthews to get them in the playoffs by scoring 60+ goals every season.

[Majingir]

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That's the issue: Marner has to waive his no trade clause. Only way he does that is if the team acquiring him signs him to a huge deal. And then the Leafs have to find a trade partner that is willing to deal away a top offensive defenseman (not draft picks) to get him. That's going to be very challenging. It's not out of the realm of possibilities that they trade away Marner for less than fair value and miss the playoffs without his regular season production. You can't expect Matthews to get them in the playoffs by scoring 60+ goals every season.

Or try turning it into a 2 part trade.

Deal Marner for prospects and picks, but then deal prospects and picks for the kind of guy you want.

[Majingir]

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Marners security team is going at it with fans on social media.

Between that and his dad, it definitely says a lot about him if this is who are closest to him.

He's definitely getting run out of town this offseason.

[Majingir]

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Berube and McLellan are the only guys the Leafs have interviewed so far.

Hope it's not McLellan. He's won as many series as Keefe has in the last 10 years.

Outside of the cup year, Berube doesn't have the greatest playoff track record either though.

[Majingir]

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Berube to be named Leafs coach.

Now we'll see what happens next. I imagine the assistant coaching staff will be gone for the most part. Whoever was in charge of the power play should be fired asap.

[Majingir]

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Preds trade McDonagh back to the Lightning.

6.75m hit that TB is taking on and only have 5m in cap space after that move. Is Stamkos gone or is he taking an insanely team friendly deal to stay?

As for the Preds, they dumped 6.75m in cap space and now have 26m in cap space while not really having any notable needing to be re-signed. What could their plan be with all that space?

[Majingir]

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Keefe to NJ

[slickdtc]

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Hearing about Michov coming over from the KHL to play on the Flyers, but the details aren’t clear. I read, and not sure if true, the deal to bring him here is off if he doesn’t skate on our top line. If that’s true, horrible decision to anoint anyone like that let alone a young rookie no matter how skilled (people saying he was neck and neck with Bedard?!)

Not sure what relations are like right now between Russia and the west, I imagine not great. But maybe it’s just a ploy to get him out of there like how guys would defect back in the day.

Who knows, will be keeping an eye on it. Would be sweet to get such a high end talent here but not if there’s stipulations like playing X amount of time. Not sure how the hell they enforce that either besides… well, I wouldn’t want to be his family stuck where they are if things don’t go correctly.