The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

[bhurst99]

Six Premier League managers fired before Christmas. Seems crazy to me.

[ImTellinTim]

Swansea is totally going to give up on thinking out of the box and appoint Pulis.

[Krebstar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Suntan Superman

Paul Clement is out at Swansea

What's everyone's thoughts on this? I feel like he did the best with what he was given, and it seems the decision makers at Swansea have not done any manager any favors in the last few years.

[Suntan Superman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Krebstar

What's everyone's thoughts on this? I feel like he did the best with what he was given, and it seems the decision makers at Swansea have not done any manager any favors in the last few years.

I'm honestly torn on this, on one hand it's very obvious that things weren't working with him, lowest goals, lowest shots on target, etc. They lost their best player in Sigurdsson and did not replace him with anyone even close to his level. Tammy Abraham was arguably his best signing, but that's not something that's going to help the long-term future of this club.

On the other hand, stability is vitally important to the success of a club, Swansea has had new owners, a few new managers, and new faces in and out of the club recently which has led to this. What they well and truly need is a vision, a manager who fits that vision and a board/ownership group that will stick with that vision. It might involve being relegated at some point but at the moment, it won't be as catastrophic as it is for a club like Sunderland, which continued on in this motion of a revolving door at the bottom of the PL for a number of years. I don't think the Swansea supporters are terribly demanding, so even a few years of restructuring the club around a foundation will go a long way.

Look at a club like Watford. Ultimately they've also been churning managers, but they have a very clear plan in place, and they've had a fair amount of stability at their club in terms of players. Their main goal is to stay in the Premier League and so far they've been very successful because they've stuck to a plan. To anyone with a set of eyes it's clear that a few of these clubs have no plan other than following whatever flavor-of-the-week managerial style they're going with.

[Brahvocado]

Quote: Originally Posted by Suntan Superman

I'm honestly torn on this, on one hand it's very obvious that things weren't working with him, lowest goals, lowest shots on target, etc. They lost their best player in Sigurdsson and did not replace him with anyone even close to his level. Tammy Abraham was arguably his best signing, but that's not something that's going to help the long-term future of this club. On the other hand, stability is vitally important to the success of a club, Swansea has had new owners, a few new managers, and new faces in and out of the club recently which has led to this. What they well and truly need is a vision, a manager who fits that vision and a board/ownership group that will stick with that vision. It might involve being relegated at some point but at the moment, it won't be as catastrophic as it is for a club like Sunderland, which continued on in this motion of a revolving door at the bottom of the PL for a number of years. I don't think the Swansea supporters are terribly demanding, so even a few years of restructuring the club around a foundation will go a long way. Look at a club like Watford. Ultimately they've also been churning managers, but they have a very clear plan in place, and they've had a fair amount of stability at their club in terms of players. Their main goal is to stay in the Premier League and so far they've been very successful because they've stuck to a plan. To anyone with a set of eyes it's clear that a few of these clubs have no plan other than following whatever flavor-of-the-week managerial style they're going with.

Big difference between Swansea and Watford though.

Watford has good owners that have a clear plan and know what they are doing generally. Swansea's new owners are American, and their is all sorts of shady stuff going on in the background and their new owners have turned out to be a front for a bunch of hedge fund managers.

So basically Swansea is pretty unlikely to develop a plan that doesn't involve milking it for as much money as possible, mild money laundering, and then stripping all assets before eventually selling for a small profit.

They are most definitely in the Sunderland category.

[Suntan Superman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Brahvocado

Big difference between Swansea and Watford though. Watford has good owners that have a clear plan and know what they are doing generally. Swansea's new owners are American, and their is all sorts of shady stuff going on in the background and their new owners have turned out to be a front for a bunch of hedge fund managers. So basically Swansea is pretty unlikely to develop a plan that doesn't involve milking it for as much money as possible, mild money laundering, and then stripping all assets before eventually selling for a small profit. They are most definitely in the Sunderland category.

Definitely wasn't aware of the shady dealings of the owners, shame for Swansea to get done like this then. For the new owners then, I hope they are actually able to bring some viable stability to the club.

[Brahvocado]

Quote: Originally Posted by Suntan Superman

Definitely wasn't aware of the shady dealings of the owners, shame for Swansea to get done like this then. For the new owners then, I hope they are actually able to bring some viable stability to the club.

Yeah I wish them the best, but I just don't think it will end well.

I believe some of the group are part of the same group that own DC United, which definitely doesn't bode well for Swansea.

[~LiverpoolRed~]

Swansea considering Frank de Boer. Just go down now.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...o-paul-clement