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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    Shift 2: Unleashed Hands-Off Preview



    Back in the early part of the '90s, going from Wolfenstein 3D or Doom to Marathon forced you to change the way you played a first-person shooter. While Doom only allowed you to look left and right, Marathon allowed you to look up and down as well. The ability to look up and down forced you to play Marathon in a different way, and its aiming scheme ultimately became the new standard in first-person shooters.

    The folks behind Shift 2: Unleashed seem to want to push the racing genre forward in a similar fashion. With the “helmet cam” being introduced in Shift 2, the developers want the focus to be on the racing experience; the developers want the focus to be on the driver, not the car.

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  • JMD
    MVP
    • Feb 2008
    • 4456

    #2
    Just curious, this game will still have the standard cockpit view, won't it?

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    • Flamehead
      Banned
      • Dec 2002
      • 1501

      #3
      Re: Shift 2: Unleashed Hands-Off Preview

      I believe this may be the video referenced in the article regarding comparisons to Forza and GT5:

      Last edited by Flamehead; 03-12-2011, 07:45 PM. Reason: Revised URL

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      • Pete1210
        MVP
        • Aug 2006
        • 3277

        #4
        It would be great if they could actually incorporate head tracking for the cockpit camera in racing games.

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        • 3nDAmornin
          Rookie
          • Jun 2003
          • 190

          #5
          Originally posted by Flamehead
          I believe this may be the video referenced in the article regarding comparisons to Forza and GT5:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP4kG...layer_embedded
          Youtube has that video listed as private....

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          • Flamehead
            Banned
            • Dec 2002
            • 1501

            #6
            Re: Shift 2: Unleashed Hands-Off Preview

            Originally posted by 3nDAmornin
            Youtube has that video listed as private....
            Ah, interesting. It was available earlier today.

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            • lnin0
              MVP
              • Aug 2003
              • 1507

              #7
              Re: Shift 2: Unleashed Hands-Off Preview

              This is why I like shift. They are as tired of car porn as I am.

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              • Flamesfan102
                Rookie
                • Aug 2009
                • 243

                #8
                Re: Shift 2: Unleashed Hands-Off Preview

                Shift 2 is going to be a far improvement from the previous "Shift"

                I bought Shift months ago, played it, but didn't really get the feel for it. But now with the helmet cam, it seems to add another dimension.

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                • Flawless
                  Bang-bang! Down-down!
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 16780

                  #9
                  Re: Shift 2: Unleashed Hands-Off Preview

                  That comparison video from EA is moot, because it's comparing cockpit views to a helmet cam, and their trying to portray Shift 2 as being more realistic by showing live-action footage from a camera on top of a driver's helmet.

                  I must be the only person who doesn't like this helmet cam. I know you don't have to play from it, but it looks jarring and nauseating coupled with the excessive blurring of anything not directly in-front of the windscreen, and zooming in/out to try and simulate acceleration and braking. The devs were on to something, but the implementation needs to be way more subtle. GT5 is actually much more "true-to-life" in that video; a humans soft body and neck remove a lot of shaking and our brains sync our vision with the movements. All these effects to me are a cover up for weak tire and physics simulation. I do like reading about the focus being on actual racing, which is fairly lackluster in GT and Forza.
                  Go Noles!!! >>----->

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                  • Seymour Scagnetti
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 2489

                    #10
                    Re: Shift 2: Unleashed Hands-Off Preview

                    Originally posted by Flawless
                    That comparison video from EA is moot, because it's comparing cockpit views to a helmet cam, and their trying to portray Shift 2 as being more realistic by showing live-action footage from a camera on top of a driver's helmet.

                    I must be the only person who doesn't like this helmet cam. I know you don't have to play from it, but it looks jarring and nauseating coupled with the excessive blurring of anything not directly in-front of the windscreen, and zooming in/out to try and simulate acceleration and braking. The devs were on to something, but the implementation needs to be way more subtle. GT5 is actually much more "true-to-life" in that video; a humans soft body and neck remove a lot of shaking and our brains sync our vision with the movements. All these effects to me are a cover up for weak tire and physics simulation. I do like reading about the focus being on actual racing, which is fairly lackluster in GT and Forza.

                    I'm with you on this one. Helmet cam looks like one of those options that looks fantastic in previews and will be fun to use at the beginning because it's so innovative but I doubt the vast majority of gamers who want to post thier best times will be using it long term simply because it seems more distracting then helpful.

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                    • ChaseB
                      #BringBackFaceuary
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 9844

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Flawless
                      That comparison video from EA is moot, because it's comparing cockpit views to a helmet cam, and their trying to portray Shift 2 as being more realistic by showing live-action footage from a camera on top of a driver's helmet.

                      I must be the only person who doesn't like this helmet cam. I know you don't have to play from it, but it looks jarring and nauseating coupled with the excessive blurring of anything not directly in-front of the windscreen, and zooming in/out to try and simulate acceleration and braking. The devs were on to something, but the implementation needs to be way more subtle. GT5 is actually much more "true-to-life" in that video; a humans soft body and neck remove a lot of shaking and our brains sync our vision with the movements. All these effects to me are a cover up for weak tire and physics simulation. I do like reading about the focus being on actual racing, which is fairly lackluster in GT and Forza.
                      I think Shift 2 will be really hard to watch as a spectator if someone is using the helmet cam (see: motion sickness potential). If you have the controller, it seems to feel much better.
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                      • Flamehead
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 1501

                        #12
                        Re: Shift 2: Unleashed Hands-Off Preview

                        For those still interested, this link might work for the video:

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                        • lnin0
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1507

                          #13
                          Re: Shift 2: Unleashed Hands-Off Preview

                          Originally posted by Flamehead
                          For those still interested, this link might work for the video:

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYOCl...layer_embedded
                          Thanks for the post. Where can I get that game "Live Action" that they showed first. It looked amazing.

                          Borza didn't look half bad for a hovercraft game. I also had a good chuckle about the inclusion of music in the GT video and the silly bumping that you are allowed to get away with.

                          Shift helmet cam looks like a great view but the AI still looks janky. I get the devs wanting to show one scrape with the AI but the fact the AI was dipping all over the place in every clip looked bad.
                          Last edited by lnin0; 03-14-2011, 12:06 AM.

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                          • Flamesfan102
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 243

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Flawless
                            That comparison video from EA is moot, because it's comparing cockpit views to a helmet cam, and their trying to portray Shift 2 as being more realistic by showing live-action footage from a camera on top of a driver's helmet.

                            I must be the only person who doesn't like this helmet cam. I know you don't have to play from it, but it looks jarring and nauseating coupled with the excessive blurring of anything not directly in-front of the windscreen, and zooming in/out to try and simulate acceleration and braking. The devs were on to something, but the implementation needs to be way more subtle. GT5 is actually much more "true-to-life" in that video; a humans soft body and neck remove a lot of shaking and our brains sync our vision with the movements. All these effects to me are a cover up for weak tire and physics simulation. I do like reading about the focus being on actual racing, which is fairly lackluster in GT and Forza.
                            look up actual races in the drivers cam and it looks the exact same. That is why they are aiming for a more realistic approach.

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                            • Kruza
                              Mainstream Outlaw
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6285

                              #15
                              Re: Shift 2: Unleashed Hands-Off Preview

                              Originally posted by lnin0
                              Thanks for the post. Where can I get that game "Live Action" that they showed first. It looked amazing.

                              Borza didn't look half bad for a hovercraft game. I also had a good chuckle about the inclusion of music in the GT video and the silly bumping that you are allowed to get away with.

                              Shift helmet cam looks like a great view but the AI still looks janky. I get the devs wanting to show one scrape with the AI but the fact the AI was dipping all over the place in every clip looked bad.

                              From first glance, the live action segment looks to me like a Toyo Tires World Challenge race happening on the Long Beach Street Circuit. The World Challenge series of races were shown on Versus Network last year, but I'm not sure if they'll be shown there this year. I'll have to look it up.

                              Anyway, that camera view of Shift 2 shown in the YouTube video looks very good. I like how far the camera pans over as the driver is turning. This gives a unique perspective of what all the driver sees mid-corner while negotiating those long, sweeping bends.

                              Kruza

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