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Some of you guys need to be real.....you like debating and beating the brains out of a dead horse. Its what makes your day pass along nicely. Its what gives you an identity. Friends and foes are established. Opinions clashing with one another......somebody usually gets banned. Dont lie yall, yall live for this. If not, yall would'nt go on such tirades and numerous posting binges just to prove a point. Look at that long post Mike Jones just made, does that look like somebody who wants the complaining to stop. Its easy to tell ppl to STFU than to thoroughly debate with em. Which you guys do pretty well. You need the complainers to complain. Thats how you get your shine on. Without the whining, what would you guys do? Where would your place be? Some of yall are fooling yourselfs. Yea, things can get pretty annoying. Heelfan already pointed that out, but you guys gotta admit, misery loves company. This place would look like a ghosttown if it was'nt for the naysayers.