PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

[KingV2k3]

Pro / All Pro (I'm back to All Pro)

12 Minutes Quarters / Accelerated Clock (120 plays or so)

Subs 88 Out / 93 In (D rotates out on long drives, 2nd HB get touches)

Cone OFF for both the CPU and Human (use two controllers and two profiles to avoid 'Super DB AI'...they 'Read the QB's eyes' and it leads to too many INTs)

Hum / CPU

QB ACC 10/10 (11 if you play with the CPU's cone on)
PBK 3/3
CTH 10/10
RBA 10/11
RBK 2/5

DAWR 6/12
KND 4/5
INT 2/2
BBLK 4/4
TCK 0/0

KPWR 8/8
KACC 8/2
PL 9/10
PA 8/11
KO 8/8

All Penalties Maxed except Holding and Clipping at 9

You'll see a realisitic ammount of pancakes, passes defended on O and D

The ST sliders are skewed easier than they may need to be for players better w/ the new meter...can't get used to it...

I used pretty much the same sliders for '07 on All Pro and they play well this year on Pro too...

Enjoy...

EDIT: I posted my final version on the last page (post #188) for the '08 version, which I'm betting wll also work for '09, b/c the engine has been pretty much the same since '07...



Feedback Welcome

[cactusruss]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Looks similar to the set I was working on for all pro. Will try them as soon as possible and post results. Might not be till tomorrow that I get a full game in though.

[Kohlstar20]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Cone OFF for both the CPU and Human (use two controllers and two profiles to avoid 'Super DB AI'...they 'Read the QB's eyes' and it leads to too many INTs)

I personally haven't noticed this and I play on All-Pro. Don't get me wrong though as I have thrown my fair share of INTs (12 through 8 games in franchise) but I feel that most of them were my fault because I rushed my pass due to pressure plus my QB is Favre and he is going to throw his fair share of INTs. LOL

[cake612]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Just played my first game with these on pro level, will give it another game maybe 2 but I may soon be moving to all-pro with these sliders to see what happens

Falcons 11 at Vikes(me) 34

ATL/MIN
Total Offense
258/362
Rush
98/144
Pass
160/248
First down
14/19

T. Jackson- 17/26 65% 103.5 rating 233 yards 2 TD 1 INT 3 carries 14 yards 1 Fumb
A. Peterson 16 carries 102 yards 6.3 per 1TD 2 catches 40 yards
C. Taylor 6 carries 29 yards 4.8 per
S. Rice 6 catches 81 yards 1 TD
Pancakes were 8 4 3 3 2 for each of my o-linemen
E. Henderson 9 tackles 1 sack
C. Griffin 6 tackles 1 int
Udeze 3 tackles 2 sacks
6 sacks overall

Vick 14/34 41% 57 rating 188 yards 1 TD 1 INT 2 carries horrible start was about 3/17 at one point
Dunn 21 carries 67 yards 3.1 per 3 catches 60 yards 1 TD
Bryant 5 catches 71 yards
Pancakes 5 3 3 3 2 for each o-lineman
J. Anderson 7 tackles 3 sacks Man he was a beast, got to jackson in about 2 seconds on 2 of the sacks
D. Hall/D. Williams 5 tackles each
T. Parrish 3 tackles 1 INT

Longwell 2/2 long of 37
Cundiff 1-1 long of 25

Williamson ran back a kick for me

[KingV2k3]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

I personally haven't noticed this and I play on All-Pro. Don't get me wrong though as I have thrown my fair share of INTs (12 through 8 games in franchise) but I feel that most of them were my fault because I rushed my pass due to pressure plus my QB is Favre and he is going to throw his fair share of INTs. LOL

The turning off the CPU's cone helps keep the Human AI from intercepting the CPU QB too often...which has been a well documented problem...

I don't like to pass w/ the cone....but that's more of a personal preference...never thought that EA implemeted this feature properly...

[KingV2k3]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Just played my first game with these on pro level, will give it another game maybe 2 but I may soon be moving to all-pro with these sliders to see what happens

Falcons 11 at Vikes(me) 34

ATL/MIN
Total Offense
258/362
Rush
98/144
Pass
160/248
First down
14/19

T. Jackson- 17/26 65% 103.5 rating 233 yards 2 TD 1 INT 3 carries 14 yards 1 Fumb
A. Peterson 16 carries 102 yards 6.3 per 1TD 2 catches 40 yards
C. Taylor 6 carries 29 yards 4.8 per
S. Rice 6 catches 81 yards 1 TD
Pancakes were 8 4 3 3 2 for each of my o-linemen
E. Henderson 9 tackles 1 sack
C. Griffin 6 tackles 1 int
Udeze 3 tackles 2 sacks
6 sacks overall

Vick 14/34 41% 57 rating 188 yards 1 TD 1 INT 2 carries horrible start was about 3/17 at one point
Dunn 21 carries 67 yards 3.1 per 3 catches 60 yards 1 TD
Bryant 5 catches 71 yards
Pancakes 5 3 3 3 2 for each o-lineman
J. Anderson 7 tackles 3 sacks Man he was a beast, got to jackson in about 2 seconds on 2 of the sacks
D. Hall/D. Williams 5 tackles each
T. Parrish 3 tackles 1 INT

Longwell 2/2 long of 37
Cundiff 1-1 long of 25

Williamson ran back a kick for me

Looks like you pancake stats are in line...not sure about passes defended, both can result in unrealistic Pro Bowl nods over a season....

I control the RDT on D and then 'switch to closest defender' to finish the play, so your controller skill or gameplay choices may have an effect...

Hopefully, this is a good base set for you to work with...

[KingV2k3]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Just played my first game with these on pro level, will give it another game maybe 2 but I may soon be moving to all-pro with these sliders to see what happens

Falcons 11 at Vikes(me) 34

ATL/MIN
Total Offense
258/362
Rush
98/144
Pass
160/248
First down
14/19

T. Jackson- 17/26 65% 103.5 rating 233 yards 2 TD 1 INT 3 carries 14 yards 1 Fumb
A. Peterson 16 carries 102 yards 6.3 per 1TD 2 catches 40 yards
C. Taylor 6 carries 29 yards 4.8 per
S. Rice 6 catches 81 yards 1 TD
Pancakes were 8 4 3 3 2 for each of my o-linemen
E. Henderson 9 tackles 1 sack
C. Griffin 6 tackles 1 int
Udeze 3 tackles 2 sacks
6 sacks overall

Vick 14/34 41% 57 rating 188 yards 1 TD 1 INT 2 carries horrible start was about 3/17 at one point
Dunn 21 carries 67 yards 3.1 per 3 catches 60 yards 1 TD
Bryant 5 catches 71 yards
Pancakes 5 3 3 3 2 for each o-lineman
J. Anderson 7 tackles 3 sacks Man he was a beast, got to jackson in about 2 seconds on 2 of the sacks
D. Hall/D. Williams 5 tackles each
T. Parrish 3 tackles 1 INT

Longwell 2/2 long of 37
Cundiff 1-1 long of 25

Williamson ran back a kick for me

Since you had 6 sacks and alot of QB pressure that obviously affected Vick, I'd probably bump up that CPU PBK slider...

Might also want to bump up the CPU RBK and drop yours 1...

Looks really close tho...

[Kohlstar20]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

The turning off the CPU's cone helps keep the Human AI from intercepting the CPU QB too often...which has been a well documented problem...

I don't like to pass w/ the cone....but that's more of a personal preference...never thought that EA implemeted this feature properly...

Oh, I misunderstood your post. I have noticed this on occasion. One game I intercepted Brooks Bollinger 7 times. That was the only game that felt like I had "Super Human DB AI" though as all the other games I have played I haven't recorded more than 2 INTs.

[cake612]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Played another game last night, vikes(me) vs. Detroit and just killed them. Just got home from work, got a few errands to do then I'll bump it up to all pro to see what happens. Work again in the morning so I'm not going anywhere, should be able to get a few games in tonight.

I get the feeling that the sliders are pretty solid but the CPU just needs a bump in ability pretty much across the board so hopefully all pro with just a couple of tweaks will finally be the right set for me. I was on all madden for a bit before I tried these but I couldnt find a middle ground with the running game. CPU stats were mixed at best and I'd either dominate and average 6 yards a carry or do nothing and get stopped behind the line way too often and average like 1.5 yards a carry when I tried to make running harder.

[KingV2k3]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Played another game last night, vikes(me) vs. Detroit and just killed them. Just got home from work, got a few errands to do then I'll bump it up to all pro to see what happens. Work again in the morning so I'm not going anywhere, should be able to get a few games in tonight.

I get the feeling that the sliders are pretty solid but the CPU just needs a bump in ability pretty much across the board so hopefully all pro with just a couple of tweaks will finally be the right set for me. I was on all madden for a bit before I tried these but I couldnt find a middle ground with the running game. CPU stats were mixed at best and I'd either dominate and average 6 yards a carry or do nothing and get stopped behind the line way too often and average like 1.5 yards a carry when I tried to make running harder.

I used a set similar on All Pro last year and had very satisfying results...

Could be moving up to that level again, once I get reaquainted with the game...

Interestingly, in last year's version the AI was kinda tough in the early part of the season and then got easier by game 10 or so...earlier version of Madden were the opposite...

Point being, it's tough to gauge a slider set outside of a full franchise season...

Looking forward to your AP experience with this set as your base...

[KingV2k3]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Oh, I misunderstood your post. I have noticed this on occasion. One game I intercepted Brooks Bollinger 7 times. That was the only game that felt like I had "Super Human DB AI" though as all the other games I have played I haven't recorded more than 2 INTs.

Madden will even say something to the effect of "The defender read the play in the Quarterbacks eyes" when this happens...

I heard it A LOT w/ the CPU cone on and rarely (if ever) when it's off...

The CPU QB play has been erratic for the last 3 versions...you adjust the sliders to compensate for a very bad game by the CPU's starting QB and then BOOM someone marginal lights you up for 400 yards...

It's tough to gauge w/o playing a full season in 'Chise...

[cake612]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

First game on all pro won 26-21, definitely a fun game, not as close as the score though but still good overall. Need to play a good team to get a real feel for these sliders though. The Packers are next so at least they have Favre, then a bye then at Chicago, at Dallas, home vs. Philly and home vs. SD. Definitely a good stretch to test these out plus I want to play a couple exhibitions with better teams and see how that goes. Eventually when I'm happy with these I'll start a franchise with my Pats. Vikes are a fun team though, if I were a fan of the team and stuck with it for a season or two they'd definitely be very very good.

Vikes (me) vs. Chiefs
Rush yards
100/87
Pass yards
148/205
Total Yards
329/406

T. Jackson 49.1 rating 14/30 46% 179 yards 1 TD 2 picks 3 carries 15 yards One of the picks was just a horrible throw on my part, threw it right to the LB, the other was mostly my fault too I think
A. Peterson 22 carries 78 yards 3.5 per carry 1 TD 3 catches for 5 yards
S. Rice 5 catches 91 yards
Pancakes were 4 4 2 2 1 for my linemen
Nobody with more than 3 tackles, Udeze had a sack, no picks, 2 forced fumbles both recovered by me.

Huard 72.4 rating 10/34 210 yards 2 TDs
L. Johnson 12 carries 74 yards 6.1 per carry 1 TD 2 catches for 16 yards I led pretty much all game they scored with about 30 second left to make it close but I was in control all game
Kennison 3 catches 62 yards 1 TD
D. Bowe 2 catches 82 yards 1 TD
Pancakes were 4 4 2 1 1 for the linemen
T. Law 9 tackles 1 FL
D. Edwards 5 tackle 1 sack 1 INT
3 sacks all together no fumbles

[AsianChexMix]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Quick question...what is the purpose of accelerated clock? I'm not really liking that and turned it off. What would the time change be if I took off the accelerated clock? It seems like my skills suck because I can't really score much. Oh lordy lord!

[cake612]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Just played the Packers with the same sliders, wow what a game. Was down 20-0 after the first quarter and 27-7 at the half. TD pass to Rice to start the second half then GB scores again. Returned a fumble for a TD with 14 seconds left in the 3rd. Then Jackson threw a TD pass to Kleinsasser then with 10 seconds left I hit the #4 receiver Aundrae Allison for a 41 yard score to give me the one point lead. Forgot that going for 2 meant a 3 point lead and a field goal would tie instead of win so I audibled out of FG formation since I had no timeouts but the pass was in complete. Oh well great game had to punt with 2 mins. left but forced a 3 and out and then drove down to score and win, my first lead of the game too.

Pack/Vikes (me)
Total Offense
446/336
Rush yards
140/121
Pass yards
306/245
Total yards
547/455

Jackson 22/39 56% 102.8 rating 263 yards 3 TDs 0 INTs 7 carries 35 yards
Peterson 19 carries 90 yards 4.7 average 1 TD 1 Fumb
Williamson 10 catches 99 yards
Rice 4 catches 48 yards 1 TD
Pancakes 6 4 2 1 1 guy with zero
No sacks, no ints 1 FF that I recovered and scored a TD 3 passes Defl. 1 each by Smith Winfield and Sharper

Favre 14/23 60% 144.5 rating 306 yards 3 TDs 0 INT
Morency 21 carries 127 yards 6.0 per carry 2 TDs 2 catches 23 yards
Driver 5 catches 99 yards
Jennings 3 catches 125 yards 2 TD
Pancakes were 4 3 1 2 guys with zero
3 guys with 6 tackles Kampman and Tyron Culver had a sack 8 total passes defended 2 each by Woodson, Culver and Al Harris.

I usually play as a safety or blitzing lineback, I love playing as safety a lot more pressure than lineman which I played as exclusively for a long time. I play a lot of cover 2 and if I bite on play action I pay for it. I think both Jennings TDs were my fault, the stats may be a little high but it's not like Favre was making crazy throws. If I don't bite and knock that pass down which was a lob, Favre has a much more reasonable day.

What a game though, trailing the whole way, get the ball back with about 3 mins. let and have to punt, Pack goes 3 and I out, and I get the ball back to score. Definitely the best game of '08 I've played. I think the stats were pretty reasonable as well considering how high scoring the game was. I was cheesing a bit though they played so much man so the curl routes were money. Made some other real nice passes though but Jackson also missed badly a couple times which is actually good to see, his accuracy is only 82 so it's not really that frustrating to see him overthrow guys a couple times.

[mike06]

Re: PS2 'Stat Accurate' Sliders

Quick question...what is the purpose of accelerated clock? I'm not really liking that and turned it off. What would the time change be if I took off the accelerated clock? It seems like my skills suck because I can't really score much. Oh lordy lord!

The accelerated clocks purpose is for the time runoff before the snap to be more like what an NFL team would do. Rarely will you see them snap the ball with more than about 15 seconds on the clock. It works better to set a game time that accounts for how everyone plays. If you say 12mins accelerated clock, the fastest you can usually snap the ball is with about 15 seconds on the clock, so the fastest possible player would have a difference of about 10 seconds per play than the slower players. But say if you go 8mins NO accelerated, some people may pick a play and snap the ball in 10 seconds, while others run the whole playclock, which makes for a massive discrepancy in the amount of plays per game.