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Touche'

You have my full apologies; I can see where people would get that view. I was familar with all except one of the articles you linked and I guess I'm so jaded against the sports gaming journalism in general, that I never took what was being said that seriously. I hoped for the best, but kept expectations low because it's got to be unbelievably hard developing a sim-style football game when most gamers will only accept the NFL. And it seems the only way people will accept a non-licensed game is if that game allows them to make it look like an NFL game. Either way, thx for the links - you were right; I see where you're coming from. On some level I still feel we as gamers have to manage expectations better. Especially when we collectively are so particular on what we'll accept in a football game - when it comes to one that doesn't have the NFL license, that is.