OS Roundtable: EAs Exclusive NFL License

[Kramer5150]

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This is a big misconseption(sp?) that a lot of people are mad that EA bought the license. Even though you can always find one or two people who do hate for that reason, the majority of people hate EA because THEY CANT/WONT IMPROVE UPON THEIR GAME. Anyone who denies this is kidding themselves. The fact remains that there is a lot of Madden haters, and a lot of Madden worshippers, but I would put money on the fact that if they made a great game year after year, the people who hated on EA would look extremely foolish. Case in point, no one ever complains about the GTA series because they make great games.

This is actually a great point. I could really care less WHO got the license,as long as we were seeing the improvements.
As been said before....for every 3 steps forward,there's been 2 steps back.
I mean seriously......what has EA/Tiburon done with the Madden series that required exclusivity?
That isn't meant in a smartass way...I'm just seriously curious.

[unfriendlyghst]

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Oh yes, I almost forgot. The fact that the major gaming sites refuse to report accurately on any given Madden game is equally as frustrating. I'm not on here to be a jerk about this but come on, how many major glitches slipped past these "industry experts"? Yet, you wont find any reporting on this. It is really sad that independent gaming sites are absolutely afraid of saying anything bad about Madden for who knows what reason?

I think this also adds fuel to the "Hate Madden Machine".When people who legitimately care about the quality of the games they are buying become marginalized, it's like they are being spit on twice. Not only did they lose $60 on a worthless piece of software (Madden 06), but they are also being called fools by the people who are supposedly giving us accurate reviews of the games we may want to buy. You wont find this kind of select game coverage on any other franchise of games, or any other game for that matter.

[Rocky]

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Oh yes, I almost forgot. The fact that the major gaming sites refuse to report accurately on any given Madden game is equally as frustrating. I'm not on here to be a jerk about this but come on, how many major glitches slipped past these "industry experts"? Yet, you wont find any reporting on this. It is really sad that independent gaming sites are absolutely afraid of saying anything bad about Madden for who knows what reason?

I think this also adds fuel to the "Hate Madden Machine".When people who legitimately care about the quality of the games they are buying become marginalized, it's like they are being spit on twice. Not only did they lose $60 on a worthless piece of software (Madden 06), but they are also being called fools by the people who are supposedly giving us accurate reviews of the games we may want to buy. You wont find this kind of select game coverage on any other franchise of games, or any other game for that matter.

Very good post.

[HealyMonster]

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Oh yes, I almost forgot. The fact that the major gaming sites refuse to report accurately on any given Madden game is equally as frustrating. I'm not on here to be a jerk about this but come on, how many major glitches slipped past these "industry experts"? Yet, you wont find any reporting on this. It is really sad that independent gaming sites are absolutely afraid of saying anything bad about Madden for who knows what reason?

I think this also adds fuel to the "Hate Madden Machine".When people who legitimately care about the quality of the games they are buying become marginalized, it's like they are being spit on twice. Not only did they lose $60 on a worthless piece of software (Madden 06), but they are also being called fools by the people who are supposedly giving us accurate reviews of the games we may want to buy. You wont find this kind of select game coverage on any other franchise of games, or any other game for that matter.

agreed. i checked out metacritic.com based off of the os podcast from yesterday and I was surprised to find out what some major outlets gave madden 08 a perfect score. off the top of my head yahoo basically said madden is the greatest thing to ever happen to them basically. alot of these reviewers never had to play madden to write their reviews. if u read them its all basically the same thing. they outline the back of the box and add that their opinion of it is that its great and innovative. we rarely see anyone break down the game and give an honest opinion. I also relate this to the fact that you have ppl reviewing halo 3 and madden in the same fashion. "game looks good, wow, when I press up the person runs that way, when i press a he throws the ball. omg the qb actually has a throwing animation" and then they freak out. u mean to tell me they have this awsome gameplay previously mentioned and they have superstar mode, owner mode, and franchise? im thankful ea blessed us with this game.

thats basically it and I dont feel as though i can blame EA for the reviews they get as much as I blame companys with big reputation not giving the gameing industry the reviews it deserves.

[thaima1shu]

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Oh yes, I almost forgot. The fact that the major gaming sites refuse to report accurately on any given Madden game is equally as frustrating. I'm not on here to be a jerk about this but come on, how many major glitches slipped past these "industry experts"? Yet, you wont find any reporting on this. It is really sad that independent gaming sites are absolutely afraid of saying anything bad about Madden for who knows what reason?

I think this also adds fuel to the "Hate Madden Machine".When people who legitimately care about the quality of the games they are buying become marginalized, it's like they are being spit on twice. Not only did they lose $60 on a worthless piece of software (Madden 06), but they are also being called fools by the people who are supposedly giving us accurate reviews of the games we may want to buy. You wont find this kind of select game coverage on any other franchise of games, or any other game for that matter.

Brilliant post. I've been thinking the same thing for a while now. It's a shame these "experts" don't seem to want to bring up valid flaws with the game.

[FlyingFinn]

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I mean seriously......what has EA/Tiburon done with the Madden series that required exclusivity?

This is probably one of things that grinds my gears the most. I remember when exclusitivity was first announced, EA stated it would be a good thing because they would have access to things they never had before with NFL so the game would definitely benefit.

Based on the past 3 interations of next-gen Madden, the license was purchased only to eliminate competition. Although the NFL put the license up for sale , I bet if EA didn't pony up so much cash, the NFL would have withdrew the NFL exclusive proposal because it could have made more money by not being exclusive.

[bkfount]

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thats basically it and I dont feel as though i can blame EA for the reviews they get as much as I blame companys with big reputation not giving the gameing industry the reviews it deserves.

well if you don't believe that the sites giving madden raving reviews are doing so because they genuinely like it, then it's obviously because EA is a power in the industry. If one site steps out and gives madden a 6 or so, then EA could easily label them a rouge site trying to make a name for themselves and hold advertising and early access to all of their games.

EA makes much more than just madden, and if they get a bad review, they could easily do what Ubisoft did to sites for receiving some negative reviews about Assassins Creed.

Part of it is because madden is popular and sites can piggyback on madden hype for views, and another is that EA puts out lots of games, and pissing them off wouldn't be great for business.

[Bobolini]

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I am also disappointed with the NFL for "selling out" to one company. I really wonder if they even thought about the impact this has on the consumer. All about the money...

[adriano]

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This is probably one of things that grinds my gears the most. I remember when exclusitivity was first announced, EA stated it would be a good thing because they would have access to things they never had before with NFL so the game would definitely benefit.

Based on the past 3 interations of next-gen Madden, the license was purchased only to eliminate competition. Although the NFL put the license up for sale , I bet if EA didn't pony up so much cash, the NFL would have withdrew the NFL exclusive proposal because it could have made more money by not being exclusive.

After 2k3 EA started heavily selling the NFL on exclusivity. The NFL didnt listen until they saw their brand selling for 19.99. That gave EA bargaining power and we all know what happens next..

EA tries to spin it as is the NFL wanted this all along, they did after years of EA making them offers for exclusivity..EA Promised them so much Money and a Guarantee that their name brand would not be sold at a discount.. The NFL is very image conscious

[unfriendlyghst]

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Yes, this is very sad. The whole idea of exclusivity has become complete garbage. The Madden hate war wagon wont stop until they start to fix things. And I am personally tired of all these people telling us to keep our mouths shut. Last time I checked, this is the US(or at least the internet), not China. There is, I think, a stark difference between being a true fan of Madden, and a "blind sheep". This pot has been boiling over for years and the arguments never seem to change. "Not enough features", "Lousy gameplay", "Terrible glitches", "No commentary", and the absolute worst "No ESPN integration". That last one my friends is the most absolute example of laziness that I have ever seen. That fact that ESPN NFL2k5 had this, with the halftime show, weekly sportscenter, and the "25 year anniversary Challenge" in 2004, on a lesser console is INDEFFENSABLE. It has been 4 years, and an entirely upgaded set of consoles, and what does EA have to show for it? Something needs to give because 4 years is a long time to ask football gamers to be patient. Espescially when we are being duped year after year. You know what, if you weren't ready to release the absolute best game possible, then make us wait a year or 2 until you get it right. It beats getting suckered every year with no end in sight.

Thats all.

[Rufus]

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[QUOTE=unfriendlyghst;2038177335]Yes, this is very sad. The whole idea of exclusivity has become complete garbage. The Madden hate war wagon wont stop until they start to fix things. And I am personally tired of all these people telling us to keep our mouths shut. Last time I checked, this is the US(or at least the internet), not China. There is, I think, a stark difference between being a true fan of Madden, and a "blind sheep". This pot has been boiling over for years and the arguments never seem to change. "Not enough features", "Lousy gameplay", "Terrible glitches", "No commentary", and the absolute worst "No ESPN integration". That last one my friends is the most absolute example of laziness that I have ever seen. That fact that ESPN NFL2k5 had this, with the halftime show, weekly sportscenter, and the "25 year anniversary Challenge" in 2004, on a lesser console is INDEFFENSABLE. It has been 4 years, and an entirely upgaded set of consoles, and what does EA have to show for it? Something needs to give because 4 years is a long time to ask football gamers to be patient. Espescially when we are being duped year after year. You know what, if you weren't ready to release the absolute best game possible, then make us wait a year or 2 until you get it right. It beats getting suckered every year with no end in sight.

Thats all.[/QU

I totally agree with you, Next Gen football has been really disappointing, Im talking Madden and NCAA on the 360, I havent purchased one copy of either since I purchased my 360 a few months after launch. I have rented them every year, just to try them out, no purchase for me. I keep waiting to see what happens every year, and they just cant get next gen right, and I prefer playing last gen versions. I'm still waiting to play a next gen football game on my 360.