In defense of their rating of Carmona (and I speak as an Indians fan), he only did it for one year. He is probably better than an 84, but they usually do these based on three year averages. And Santana may have gone 15-13, but I'm someone who doesn't believe that a pitcher's W-L is a be all end all. He is certainly better than 15-13 and if there is a 100 pitcher in the MLB, it would be Santana.