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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4846

    #1

    The Art of Constructing a Baseball Lineup

    Dave Branda, Operation Sports' Editorals Editor gives his opinion on how to construct the best possible baseball lineup. Check out the article here.

    "Putting together a lineup in baseball is really much more of an art than a science, with many baseball insiders having very different ideas about how to construct the perfect lineup."
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  • maverick3176
    Banned
    • Mar 2005
    • 363

    #2
    Re: Art of Baseball Lineup Making

    just read that link. The dude was right on the money and knows his stuff

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    • jrod1981
      Rookie
      • Jul 2006
      • 390

      #3
      I'm gonna have to print this out! Makes me realize what the cubs are doing wrong. They are trying to make guys fit where they really aren't designed for.

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      • jake44np
        Post Like a Champion!
        • Jul 2002
        • 9565

        #4
        Re: The Art of Constructing a Baseball Lineup

        Decent article filled with some common knowledge if you a baseball fan.
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        • Trevytrev11
          MVP
          • Nov 2006
          • 3259

          #5
          Re: The Art of Constructing a Baseball Lineup

          Kind of funny...this year LaRussa is going to bat his pitchers 8th. In hopes that Pujols will have a few more RBI opportunities later in the games.

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          • Steelerfan2k1
            MVP
            • Aug 2002
            • 1451

            #6
            Great article! You know - much of this actually applies to slowpitch softball as well (only you have 10 hitters instead of 9).

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            • dkgojackets
              Banned
              • Mar 2005
              • 13818

              #7
              Everything I've read says that batting order actually matters very little...if you assume the pitcher bats 9th than the difference between the optimal lineup and worst lineup possible is just 6%, and that required some really ridiculous stuff in the worst order.

              It's much more important what players the manager chooses to have bat, not the order they hit in, although ideas like alternating lefties/righties and keeping the real slow players with double play potential separate have merit.

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              • jdros13
                MVP
                • Oct 2004
                • 1255

                #8
                I applaud the effort of writing articles, but you guys need to do a much better job editing if you are going to do this. In the third paragraph it is "here" not "hear" and in the 5th paragraph it is "two", not "to". I haven't read the rest of the article yet.

                Many won't care, but it really looks bad to be "published" with these blatant errors. If it was a forum post I wouldn't even comment.

                Just my $.02....again I applaud the effort. I'll finish the article now...
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                • Jistic
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 16406

                  #9
                  Re: The Art of Constructing a Baseball Lineup

                  Originally posted by dkgojackets
                  Everything I've read says that batting order actually matters very little...if you assume the pitcher bats 9th than the difference between the optimal lineup and worst lineup possible is just 6%, and that required some really ridiculous stuff in the worst order.

                  It's much more important what players the manager chooses to have bat, not the order they hit in, although ideas like alternating lefties/righties and keeping the real slow players with double play potential separate have merit.
                  You are dead on. They've done countless studies on this, lineup means very little.
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                  • ChaseB
                    #BringBackFaceuary
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 9653

                    #10
                    Re: The Art of Constructing a Baseball Lineup

                    Originally posted by jdros13
                    I applaud the effort of writing articles, but you guys need to do a much better job editing if you are going to do this. In the third paragraph it is "here" not "hear" and in the 5th paragraph it is "two", not "to". I haven't read the rest of the article yet.

                    Many won't care, but it really looks bad to be "published" with these blatant errors. If it was a forum post I wouldn't even comment.

                    Just my $.02....again I applaud the effort. I'll finish the article now...
                    Yea that was our bad. Writers submit articles the day before, but this one slipped through the editing process and wasn't checked I guess. Inexcusable, but now fixed.
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                    • snepp
                      We'll waste him too.
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 10008

                      #11
                      Well, since the grammar/typo can has already been opened....

                      In the 3rd paragraph under "1st" it has OPB rather than OBP. And then under "3rd" it has OBS (assuming it should be OBP again).
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                      • KRS-One
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 346

                        #12
                        I'd disagree slightly with the 6 and 7 spots in an AL lineup. It's common knowledge (at least, as far as I know, it's common knowledge...if that makes sense) that the 7th hitter is the "second cleanup hitter." Your 6th hitter should be a guy who makes good contact, can move guys around the bases, etc. (much like your #2 hitter) and then your #7 guy should have decent power to the gaps so that he can drive in any guys still on base from the meat of the lineup.
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                        • ChaseB
                          #BringBackFaceuary
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 9653

                          #13
                          So you'd say NL and AL lineups start to differ at #6 rather than #7 KRS?
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                          • Cletus
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 1772

                            #14
                            Re: The Art of Constructing a Baseball Lineup

                            I think you're forgetting there's more than one way to do a lineup. There's the Speed, Control, Contact way. It isn't used in MLB at all because of the abundance of power hitters. basically you have your line up split into 3 sections. The first hitter is your speed guy, second guy can move runners along and 3rd guy is the contact guy. It is a very useful lineup if you do not have sluggers on your team. Sometimes in lineups, I like to arrange my 3rd hitter as my power hitter and my 4th guy as my contact guy, it just depends on who is getting on base and if I need my 4th hitter to get on base or not.
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                            • SHO
                              Give us a raise, loser!
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 2053

                              #15
                              Good stuff.

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