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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845
    #1

    Community Shoutback

    Operation Sports' Erik Westfall has taken some of the best or most unique comments from this week's articles and posted them with some commentary of his own in the inaugural edition of A View From the Outside.

    So last week we had a number of articles on a broad range of games. However, there were also a number of noteworthy comments from our readers that stuck out just as much. This week, we take a step back and highlight some of these comments.
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    • NateTeut
      Rookie
      • Feb 2003
      • 32
      #2
      The reason NHL '94 could show highlights but games like Madden can't is because back then there was no such thing as unique stadiums or players. Every stadium looked the same and every player looked more or less the same. All they had to do was swap out a Sabres logo for a Kings logo and voila....you've moved from Buffalo to The Forum. Change the jersey colors from blue to black and you've changed the teams, too.

      Nowadays, you'd have to load in the stadiums (which is the big time-killer)...not to mention jerseys, player faces, player models, etc. So, although it'd be cool, I don't see that happening again.....though score updates and stats on a scoreboard should be totally do-able.

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        • e0820
          MVP
          • Jan 2003
          • 2070
          #3
          NFL2k5 did it on XBOX. I think future versions of MLB The Show will have it - it looks like thats the direction with the replay vault

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            • MassNole
              Banned
              • Mar 2006
              • 18848
              #4
              Re: A View From the Outside

              Originally posted by NateTeut
              The reason NHL '94 could show highlights but games like Madden can't is because back then there was no such thing as unique stadiums or players. Every stadium looked the same and every player looked more or less the same. All they had to do was swap out a Sabres logo for a Kings logo and voila....you've moved from Buffalo to The Forum. Change the jersey colors from blue to black and you've changed the teams, too.

              Nowadays, you'd have to load in the stadiums (which is the big time-killer)...not to mention jerseys, player faces, player models, etc. So, although it'd be cool, I don't see that happening again.....though score updates and stats on a scoreboard should be totally do-able.
              Wow, I think you are really underestimating the power of the modern consoles.

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                • ZM Punk
                  We Spent Some Money!
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 6260
                  #5
                  Re: A View From the Outside

                  Originally posted by MassNole
                  Wow, I think you are really underestimating the power of the modern consoles.
                  Exactly

                  This isn't Sega or Super Nintendo anymore. These machines have plenty of power to do the things mentioned.
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                    • NateTeut
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 32
                      #6
                      I have to totally disagree. It's not out of the question I'm wrong, but think about loading into games back in '94. You pretty much pressed Start and went straight into the game. Today, load times of 30-45 seconds or more aren't uncommon in ANY PS3 game. It's because although the machines do indeed have plenty of power, they're also loading in stadiums/arenas that are immense. Hence the long load.

                      So, to do an in-game highlight, you'd hafta spend 30 seconds loading in the highlight stadium, then another 30 seconds loading it out and bringing the current game stadium back in. I think it's much tougher to do than you think, or else I'm sure games would've done it by now.

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                        • MassNole
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 18848
                          #7
                          Re: Community Shoutback

                          Originally posted by NateTeut
                          I have to totally disagree. It's not out of the question I'm wrong, but think about loading into games back in '94. You pretty much pressed Start and went straight into the game. Today, load times of 30-45 seconds or more aren't uncommon in ANY PS3 game. It's because although the machines do indeed have plenty of power, they're also loading in stadiums/arenas that are immense. Hence the long load.

                          So, to do an in-game highlight, you'd hafta spend 30 seconds loading in the highlight stadium, then another 30 seconds loading it out and bringing the current game stadium back in. I think it's much tougher to do than you think, or else I'm sure games would've done it by now.
                          Didn't the creators of Tony Hawk basically figure out how to mask the loading while remaining in game? I am like 99% sure of this, it would seem that EA could do the same thing in their sports games.

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                            • BlyGilmore
                              Have you seen my baseball
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 561
                              #8
                              Re: Community Shoutback

                              Originally posted by NateTeut
                              I have to totally disagree. It's not out of the question I'm wrong, but think about loading into games back in '94. You pretty much pressed Start and went straight into the game. Today, load times of 30-45 seconds or more aren't uncommon in ANY PS3 game. It's because although the machines do indeed have plenty of power, they're also loading in stadiums/arenas that are immense. Hence the long load.

                              So, to do an in-game highlight, you'd hafta spend 30 seconds loading in the highlight stadium, then another 30 seconds loading it out and bringing the current game stadium back in. I think it's much tougher to do than you think, or else I'm sure games would've done it by now.
                              NBA 2k8 seems to do a pretty good and snappy job of loading the top three plays and highlight reels for every player who played in the game.
                              If you can read this, you don't need glasses.

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                                • BlyGilmore
                                  Have you seen my baseball
                                  • Nov 2007
                                  • 561
                                  #9
                                  Re: Community Shoutback

                                  Originally posted by MassNole
                                  Didn't the creators of Tony Hawk basically figure out how to mask the loading while remaining in game? I am like 99% sure of this, it would seem that EA could do the same thing in their sports games.
                                  Assassin's Creed does something similar. when the game is loading you're almost in a matrix-like holding pattern where you can move around.
                                  If you can read this, you don't need glasses.

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                                    • MassNole
                                      Banned
                                      • Mar 2006
                                      • 18848
                                      #10
                                      Re: Community Shoutback

                                      Originally posted by BlyGilmore
                                      Assassin's Creed does something similar. when the game is loading you're almost in a matrix-like holding pattern where you can move around.
                                      See that would make me think that you could hide the loading screens with some commentary about the game before going to highlights from another game.

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