All-Pro Football 2K9 Benched

[Stevo]

Re: All-Pro Football 2K9 Benched

Damn, thats ****in wack.

[spankdatazz22]

Re: All-Pro Football 2K9 Benched

1st off, my time I spend customizing one game, has nothing to do with this subject. You can try to throw other games in the mixed, but know your facts 1st. When APF came out, did I not spend months making NFL Jerseys and post codes? YES!!!!

Actually, MY point was directed somewhat towards your willingness to customize/put up with certain games' deficiencies. That was the only reason I brought up NBA Live, not because of some 2K/EA thing. We've discussed it in the past - to me, you seem to favor looks over gameplay - if a game looks good enough you'll workaround/accept gameplay holes. While actively campaigning for new engines for the games you feel are lacking visually. Just saying that's the way it seems to me. That's the reason I brought up Live, or your "2Kports" sig back when the 2K6's were out (I think it was then).

When NBA 2k8 came out didn't spent months doing videos (that weren't appreciated and faded in the forums)? YES!!!

When College Hoops 2k8 came out, didn't I create over 25 videos and post pictures of player edits on a roster? YES!!!

While you focus on me working on an EA product! Know that I supported 2k first and foremost and my efforts were never acknowledged or appreciated. I have 1 or 2 OSer's that even showed interest.

While you knock my efforts on Live I got over 50+ PM's of people who requested vids and sliders and edits, the same with Madness.

APF left me with limits to editing and controlling teams. In those terms it wasn't done right!

I don't recall seeing any of your All Pro vids - not like you need to have them to prove anything anyway. I was going more off our debate not too long ago where you said:

Has nothing to do with that, I'm extremely frustrated with football and basketball game, and the directions they are going in. I'm losing my interest. I've played basketball for 15 years and football for 3 and its amazing I'm losing my interest in these games. Especially when these are the two sports I love the most.

But to dispute whether or not, $20 made a difference in the NFL decision. I could care less anymore. I think we are all getting hosed on the whole deal. And its finally sinking in, on how much it sucks.

Why debate over something, that isn't putting money in my pocket? So whats the point!

I'm done! Have fun! It just really doesn't change the situation at hand. And APF 2k8 sucks point blank. I remember when it came out I was so happy, I spent weeks, editing my jerseys and teams, creating players. I was happy 2k is back! Then the limitations started killing that buzz, no franchise, just single season, not able to play with other teams. Repeat players on both teams, it was horrible. And then the wow! factor rubbed off and all that made it great, was overshadowed by what was wrong with it!

If there is a 2k9 and it flops too. Then I will hate 2ksports for making efforts at it, while cancelling college hoops. It wouldn't make sense.

It's understandable to be frustrated w/next gen. But we did get the best pro and college basketball games to date this generation w/the 2K games, and they've done nothing but improve. But you're disappointed. Football sucks because of exclusivity. Madden/NCAA/APF are what they are. But imo they shouldn't be judged the same. Madden/NCAA have pretty much everything going for them, have been in development for several years, and are what they are. APF lacks the licenses and it was it's first year. Yes, it would've been nice if the game didn't have the limitations it has, or that 2K knocked a homerun their first time out. But they shouldn't have had to - especially given the limitations they were forced to work within (trying something new/1st time out, 1st year of the title, etc.).

Even with all that they still made arguably the best playing football game to date. Something that seems to matter little to some. That's what I was arguing.

I'm sure they spent months removing everything from it, so we couldn't re-create the NFL completely. In those terms it wasn't done right. I'm sure they wanted to give us a customize complete game. But didn't want the lawsuits that followed.

This leads to the facts or should I say sound business opinion. That if they had to limit their ideas to stop from clashing with EA. They'd rather not even bother.

Don't make every thread a EA vs 2k bias place! Just because someone says something towards 2ksports doesn't mean they hate them. Maybe they are just being more realistic.

I've put 18 years of my life into Sega Sports and 2ksports! So don't talk to me like I just love EA sports so I'm trying to make a model out of fat chick when it comes to their games. They might not have the things you look for, but their games are solid in a lot of categories that matter to me, and I give them a chance as well.

Peace!!!

Nothing wrong with being a graphics whore. Personally I think graphics are more than player faces and uniform sheen. Then again, I'm a little more old school and tend to place more emphasis on gameplay when I debate a game's worth.

[aenggeorge]

Re: All-Pro Football 2K9 Benched

good conference call guys last tuesday!!!!! the game is still hopeful of a comeback and they are taking their time to make look good!!!!

[MUSS]

Re: All-Pro Football 2K9 Benched

good conference call guys last tuesday!!!!! the game is still hopeful of a comeback and they are taking their time to make look good!!!!

so, are you saying that you heard that 2k9 may still come out??

[aenggeorge]

Re: All-Pro Football 2K9 Benched

not sure but just listen in right here: http://ir.take2games.com/ and hheres vadrez said on this issue:http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164912

[totalownership]

Re: All-Pro Football 2K9 Benched

I just listened to it and it does indeed sound like there's a good chance we could see APF 2K9. A guy asked "and about football?" and he mentioned how it was off the slate for release but they are still evaluating it. He didn't have that doom and gloom sound but was rather calm, more like "oh we're just putting it out later on when we can get a few ideas on how to ..." kinda tone to it. I'm guardedly optimistic.