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**metallidevils** · 04-12-2008, 12:30 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 New Stadium Screenshot Comparison 08/09

Originally posted by a4reak

This is a next gen screen

True next-gen sports games don't have cardboard cutout fans. also there seem to be only 3 unique male and female cheerleaders, and the other 3 for both are just carbon copies.

**Pared** · 04-12-2008, 12:38 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 New Stadium Screenshot Comparison 08/09

Originally posted by metallidevils

True next-gen sports games don't have cardboard cutout fans. also there seem to be only 3 unique male and female cheerleaders, and the other 3 for both are just carbon copies.

Yeah, you're not being ridiculous at all.

**noplace** · 04-12-2008, 12:56 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 New Stadium Screenshot Comparison 08/09

Originally posted by metallidevils

True next-gen sports games don't have cardboard cutout fans. also there seem to be only 3 unique male and female cheerleaders, and the other 3 for both are just carbon copies.

I wasnt going to say anything but you're right. The fans almost ruin the photos by themselves...EA? please see The Show & APF fans

**SageInfinite** · 04-12-2008, 01:01 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 New Stadium Screenshot Comparison 08/09

Originally posted by noplace

I wasnt going to say anything but you're right. The fans almost ruin the photos by themselves...EA? please see The Show & APF fans

F the fans give me refs, a chain gang, and accurate equipment

**coogrfan** · 04-12-2008, 01:38 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by Williamz

Check out the pics of the Vols field and some of the other ones and you will notice there looks to be no far end goal posts? Photo shop anyone???????

Not necessarily, I've seen the same thing happen on the coin flip screen in NCAA 08 (360).

**Solidice** · 04-12-2008, 01:58 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by coogrfan

Not necessarily, I've see the same thing happen on the coin flip screen in NCAA 08.

i never notice that, but then again i wasnt looking for it either.

on those pics you can still see the goal post Padding, so their still there, but for whatever reason the post themselves didnt show up.

**countryboy** · 04-12-2008, 02:22 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 New Stadium Screenshot Comparison 08/09

Originally posted by metallidevils

True next-gen sports games don't have cardboard cutout fans. also there seem to be only 3 unique male and female cheerleaders, and the other 3 for both are just carbon copies.

wow!!!

people will reach for anything to rip EA about. Now that the features list is up to date, at least its being said it will be, the grass textures have been fixed, the weather seems to be improved, and the lighting is where it needs to be, we have to move on to something else.

Let me ask you this. When you are in the middle of a game, how often are you paying attention to the crowd?

**TDKing** · 04-12-2008, 02:43 PM

Re: New stadium screenshot comparison 08/09

Originally posted by Kev5890

I decided to circle the guy, for anyone not seeing what I am...

My initial thoughts is that it is a referee...

Its Bigfoot !

**metallidevils** · 04-12-2008, 03:14 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 New Stadium Screenshot Comparison 08/09

Originally posted by countryboy

wow!!!

people will reach for anything to rip EA about. Now that the features list is up to date, at least its being said it will be, the grass textures have been fixed, the weather seems to be improved, and the lighting is where it needs to be, we have to move on to something else.

Let me ask you this. When you are in the middle of a game, how often are you paying attention to the crowd?

You have MLB 08 in your avatar, so you've obviously played the game. You can't tell me that there aren't times when you step back for a second and are just completely in awe of the stadium atmosphere, including the realism of the stands/fans. Visuals don't affect the gameplay mechanics, but they do greatly enhance the entire experience. I highly, highly doubt it took SCEA a very long time to add 3d crowds into the game. A next-gen sports game, IMO, especially one in its 3rd next-gen year, should not still have cardboard cutouts in the stands.

I've been a loyal EA gamer for years - the NHL series, Madden, NCAA, MVP. I haven't played madden in a few seasons now. MVP was always an amazing game. Nowadays, from my expereinces, NHL and SCEA's MLB series are leaps and bounds above everything else. Why? At least partly because the Devs actually take the time to go on forums and find out what the community wants in a game. I actually had an email conversation with one of the guys from SCEA, when I had sent in suggestions. Everything about those two games screams 'next gen'. I haven't yet gotten that feeling from this series yet.

Also, I don't necessarily think that there's a coincidence that the NHL and MLB series' both have competition and I love both games, and NCAA not having competition, and it not being so up to par recently. People here (including probably myself) will buy this game just because we love College Football and there's no alternative. Can't really blame EA there, I guess. NHL 08 was horrible on the PC for years, but until I got a PS3, I was stuck buying that because there was nothing else. I don't see the NCAA series being truly next-gen until someone else gives them a reason to.

**Sausage** · 04-12-2008, 03:22 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by SageTheInfinite

F the fans give me refs, a chain gang, and accurate equipment

I'll take all you listed above and nice looking dynamic fans.

Originally posted by countryboy

wow!!!

people will reach for anything to rip EA about. Now that the features list is up to date, at least its being said it will be, the grass textures have been fixed, the weather seems to be improved, and the lighting is where it needs to be, we have to move on to something else.

Let me ask you this. When you are in the middle of a game, how often are you paying attention to the crowd?

Never, but it is good to know they look good and behave realistically. OS=developers pay attention to details or we'll call you out, sukka.

**countryboy** · 04-12-2008, 04:51 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 New Stadium Screenshot Comparison 08/09

Originally posted by metallidevils

You have MLB 08 in your avatar, so you've obviously played the game. You can't tell me that there aren't times when you step back for a second and are just completely in awe of the stadium atmosphere, including the realism of the stands/fans. Visuals don't affect the gameplay mechanics, but they do greatly enhance the entire experience. I highly, highly doubt it took SCEA a very long time to add 3d crowds into the game. A next-gen sports game, IMO, especially one in its 3rd next-gen year, should not still have cardboard cutouts in the stands.

I've been a loyal EA gamer for years - the NHL series, Madden, NCAA, MVP. I haven't played madden in a few seasons now. MVP was always an amazing game. Nowadays, from my expereinces, NHL and SCEA's MLB series are leaps and bounds above everything else. Why? At least partly because the Devs actually take the time to go on forums and find out what the community wants in a game. I actually had an email conversation with one of the guys from SCEA, when I had sent in suggestions. Everything about those two games screams 'next gen'. I haven't yet gotten that feeling from this series yet.

Also, I don't necessarily think that there's a coincidence that the NHL and MLB series' both have competition and I love both games, and NCAA not having competition, and it not being so up to par recently. People here (including probably myself) will buy this game just because we love College Football and there's no alternative. Can't really blame EA there, I guess. NHL 08 was horrible on the PC for years, but until I got a PS3, I was stuck buying that because there was nothing else. I don't see the NCAA series being truly next-gen until someone else gives them a reason to.

Yes I have played The Show and yes, I have at times, sat back and became immersed in the atmosphere surrounding the stadium/game. But let me say this about baseball vs football, (can't speak for hockey because I don't play nor watch the sport), but the crowd in a baseball game has a little bit more interaction with the game at hand. Fans reach for foul balls, they are right on top of the field and they chase and sometimes catch homeruns. All of this was implemented in the Show series this year.

In football its different. Most of the stadiums if not all, the fans are away from the field and there are no "souvenirs" for them to go after(ok maybe very sparingly). What I am getting at is that 3D crowds in a football game, while the would be nice, are not really a necessity. They aren't part of the action other than screaming, cheering, booing, and getting up and leaving.

And let me ask you this. Lets say that this year, EA put in 3D crowds, but yet left the features that they added this year, that people were begging for. How would you/the community feel then? What is more important, 3D crowds or the feature list to be brought up to speed?

And one last thing. Those screenshots are so far away from the field, that I don't know how you can already determine that the crowd isn't 3D this year, or at least had a makeover. Hell, the screenshots are so far back, that the players themselves, look 2D.

**GrnEyedBanditTN** · 04-12-2008, 06:01 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

The stadiums are lookin real lovely! I'm glad to see EA showing comparisons and addressing "our" issues with '07 and '08. It would be no fun if EA Sports decided to list all of the "new" things for '09 this early!

**SageInfinite** · 04-12-2008, 06:03 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Another thing I gotta mention and give EA some credit for is populating the end zones. I'm so glad they didn't leave them empty again this year.

**Cusefan** · 04-12-2008, 07:04 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

I just hope they add Otto the Orange(syracuse's mascot). I know syracuse has been pretty bad of late but still, why cant they just port him over from March madness?

**rolltide1017** · 04-12-2008, 07:09 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 New Stadium Screenshot Comparison 08/09

Originally posted by metallidevils

True next-gen sports games don't have cardboard cutout fans. also there seem to be only 3 unique male and female cheerleaders, and the other 3 for both are just carbon copies.

I agree, that was one of the first things I noticed about that screenshot, the fans look like crap (they all have these wired black outlines).

The new field textures and weather look great but, IMO, it looks like they backed off on the shadow detail a little and the textures in the stadium walls and walk ways.

Anyone now if they will still have the dynamic day to night lighting this year (hope they didn't take that out) and that real time Weather Channel feature?

Overall, I think it looks really good and the new fields look great but, it is about time EA tried to make the fans look a little better.

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