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**J-Unit40** · 04-12-2008, 07:10 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by SageTheInfinite

Another thing I gotta mention and give EA some credit for is populating the end zones. I'm so glad they didn't leave them empty again this year.

Very good point. Now that I look back, they weren't populated last year. So far, EA is gaining back some points with me.

**bonannogiovanni** · 04-12-2008, 11:40 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

The screenshots are awesome but for being a next gen game at its third year and not having referees, chains and goal post nets, is simply inexcusable....

**SteelerSpartan** · 04-13-2008, 01:17 AM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by bonannogiovanni

The screenshots are awesome but for being a next gen game at its third year and not having referees, chains and goal post nets, is simply inexcusable....

QFT...yes, should be very embarrassing.....And whats worse is that no one has ever explained and or asked why the F*** this simple stuff isn't possible with consoles like these.....F***ing embarrassing to say the least by both the EA Devs and the Media at community day events for not calling them out on this BS

**countryboy** · 04-13-2008, 08:23 AM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by bonannogiovanni

The screenshots are awesome but for being a next gen game at its third year and not having referees, chains and goal post nets, is simply inexcusable....

actually a one or two screenshots apparently show a referree and the goal post nets. But none have been said to contain the chain gang.

Look back thru a few of the posts in this thread and you'll see the apparent goal post net and the referee.

**cdj** · 04-13-2008, 09:05 AM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by SteelerSpartan

QFT...yes, should be very embarrassing.....And whats worse is that no one has ever explained and or asked why the F*** this simple stuff isn't possible with consoles like these.....F***ing embarrassing to say the least by both the EA Devs and the Media at community day events for not calling them out on this BS

This was asked at the 08 Community Day.

They didn't have items like that in 08 to ensure the game ran at 60 FPS on 360 and 30 FPS on the PS3. It addition, they faced the dilemma of using time to add them in or use it on gameplay related features.

**green94** · 04-13-2008, 09:42 AM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Wow, very impressed with the screens. But like others have said, show me some gameplay before I get excited.

That being said, the graphics look great, and actually have me interested in an NCAA game for the first time in years.

As far as the sidelines, I'll be pumped if they are dynamic, but if there are just a few more people standing around like zombies, color me unimpressed.

**SageInfinite** · 04-13-2008, 09:45 AM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by countryboy

actually a one or two screenshots apparently show a referree and the goal post nets. But none have been said to contain the chain gang.

Look back thru a few of the posts in this thread and you'll see the apparent goal post net and the referee.

I still haven't seen any goal post nets cb. Not that it's a huge deal to me, I just haven't seen them.

**Pared** · 04-13-2008, 09:55 AM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

That discussion a few pages back was about the kicker nets on the sidelines, not Goal Post nets. Those are not in any of the shots.

Is it really hard to add these things in? I can come up with a quick list off the top of my head to really immerse the gamer... yet it takes a few years to get it into the ONLY licensed college football game around.

cb, I simply have no idea how you can see details in The Show yet not catch the fact there was only one goal post in the field!

**countryboy** · 04-13-2008, 09:59 AM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by SageTheInfinite

I still haven't seen any goal post nets cb. Not that it's a huge deal to me, I just haven't seen them.

I haven't seen them either but I thought someone said there were in there. I do remember the pic where someone on here circled a "figure" in the middle of the field saying that it might be a referree...

Edit: Pared pointed out that they were talking about FG practice kicking nets, not goal posts nets, my mistake.

**countryboy** · 04-13-2008, 10:02 AM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by Pared

cb, I simply have no idea how you can see details in The Show yet not catch the fact there was only one goal post in the field!

like I said, I wasn't looking for it. I was checking out the lighting and the snow on the field more than anything else. I wasn't even looking for goal posts nets or the crowd, I was simply amazed at the lighting and the fact that snow/weather seems to have been fixed. When I look at the pics now, the goal posts at the near end appear to be transparent.

**Pared** · 04-13-2008, 10:14 AM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

I can understand that other stuff, just... an entire goal post was missing? That's like HR poles missing in a baseball game!

I'll let it go now... just funny to me.

It's ok... I was entranced by the new lighting at first too.

**countryboy** · 04-13-2008, 10:36 AM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by Pared

That's like HR poles missing in a baseball game!

I don't see any HR poles in the Show...

**rolltide1017** · 04-13-2008, 12:17 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by cdjacobs

This was asked at the 08 Community Day.

They didn't have items like that in 08 to ensure the game ran at 60 FPS on 360 and 30 FPS on the PS3. It addition, they faced the dilemma of using time to add them in or use it on gameplay related features.

That's a BS excuse IMO. If a few referees and goal post nets cause your frame rate to not achieve 60fps (or worse 30 on the PS3) then the rest of you code is not optimized well. How can The Show have such great detail in there stadiums plus full 3D crowds and, things like the apple rising in NY, the train moving on HR in Huston, fans hitting beach balls all while the game holds a solid frame rate. But EA can't add refs or nets without there frame rate suffering. Just doesn't make sense to me, maybe the game engine EA built isn't that good then.

I understand that there is more going on in football games so, the graphics will not be as good other games but, I just don't get why it is so hard to add refs or nets on these consoles (especially when the PS2 ans Xbox 1 could handle them).

**green94** · 04-13-2008, 12:52 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by rolltide1017

That's a BS excuse IMO. If a few referees and goal post nets cause your frame rate to not achieve 60fps (or worse 30 on the PS3) then the rest of you code is not optimized well. How can The Show have such great detail in there stadiums plus full 3D crowds and, things like the apple rising in NY, the train moving on HR in Huston, fans hitting beach balls all while the game holds a solid frame rate. But EA can't add refs or nets without there frame rate suffering. Just doesn't make sense to me, maybe the game engine EA built isn't that good then.

I understand that there is more going on in football games so, the graphics will not be as other games but, I just don't get why it is so hard to add refs or nets on these consoles (especially when the PS2 ans Xbox 1 could handle them).

Good post.

**edubbs** · 04-13-2008, 01:00 PM

Re: NCAA Football 09 Stadium Comparison Screenshots

Originally posted by rolltide1017

I understand that there is more going on in football games so, the graphics will not be as other games but, I just don't get why it is so hard to add refs or nets on these consoles (especially when the PS2 ans Xbox 1 could handle them).

It's the 10 year old base engine that they are using from the PS2 and Xbox hardware, that's the meat of the problem.

Until they create a new engine we will not be getting these things. Basicly their NextGen football efforts have just been spruced up last gen games to this point.

They are having fits getting their football titles too match the quality of games that are 4-5 years old from the old consoles.

Don't expect refs, nets, etc. this year because Tiborun just got the game to run at 60fps this past year, adding that stuff will just hinder the games framerate.

It's very frustrating I know....

I'm still waiting on a realistic QB pocket and defensive ends that actually rush up field, instead of wrestling at the line of scrimmage with offensive tackles. This is a fundamental thing that has NEVER been in a Tiborun produced football game.

Instead they put in these stupid gimmick defensive plays to try and limit the 20 yard QB dropback/rollout, that have both defensive ends 'spying' the QB at the same time for example....SMH.

The engine they are using along with the lack of talent on the Dev teams, is causing both of their football franchises to be stagnent IMO.

Hopefully, we will see improvement next month when some 11 on 11 vids are released.

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