Madden NFL 09 Producer Blog

[DocHolliday]

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I feel like I have read that before.

Same Ole same Ole. We will have to wait and see till the game DROPS. u never know. I thought madden looked promising last year when they showed off the Oline blocking stuff.

It still sucked balls

[Rules]

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I'm not going to get all excited this year for Madden. I'm really do think they are dumbing the game down to appeal to the people who don't even know what football is. Hardcore gamers are a small portion in the grand scheme of things so welcome to blitz EA style. Thinking back, did their street football or sports franchise bring in many gamers with their pick up and play features? Just wondering since we are the few who really ask for realism.

[Flamehead]

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It's a given that EA through its marketing campaigns, blogs, interviews, etc. will hype, spin, and market the game--that's their job. However, it's up to the consumer to "buyer-beware". Given their history in regard to hype matching reality, I believe this is a reasonable thing to do.

I believe the marketing between now and August will be fun and interesting to hear (kind of like Bigfoot-sighting stories), but nothing I'll take very seriously until I have a chance to rent it and/or get the impressions from those who have had some time with it post-release. If it appears quality-control testing was a point of emphasis for '09, and it is generally well-received by consumers (not review sites like IGN, etc.), I will gladly consider giving EA my money. Otherwise I will pass.

Perhaps others who are brand-loyal, or otherwise simply excited from the marketing campaign will purchase it day one, and more power to them. I, however, cannot do that anymore.

[Nza]

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I'm not going to get all excited this year for Madden. I'm really do think they are dumbing the game down to appeal to the people who don't even know what football is. Hardcore gamers are a small portion in the grand scheme of things so welcome to blitz EA style. Thinking back, did their street football or sports franchise bring in many gamers with their pick up and play features? Just wondering since we are the few who really ask for realism.

Not sure how popular Street was, but it's no longer being made I think (could be wrong). So it makes sense for EA to bring some of its qualities to Madden.

I don't think it's a huge deal providing EA separate the two successfully. Not sure if anyone else remembers this, but Madden did use to have an Arcade mode. I distinctly remember a power-bomb style tackle and other crazy moves. I think it was Madden 2001. Maybe it was just the PC version.

[countryboy]

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c-boy,
Neither one of your posts add anything to this discussion while both of ours are trying to make the point that FRANCHISE MODE needs to be a priority of EA's ... not just the little cheat glitches! I have not seen any one of those glitches he mentioned during any of the games I have been a part of. I would however be very excited to hear him talk about the vast improvements they intend to make to franchise mode, so that we can once again have a franchise mode reminiscent of the 04/05' years.

first of all, thank you for monitoring my posts.


Second, again, he was only giving examples of what they have/were fixed/fixing. They have yet, to announce all of the new features and what aspects of the game have been improved.

Does that add something to the discussion?

[countryboy]

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He's supposed to say what he said. That isn't the point though - no one is knocking him personally. Just the relevance and significance of saying it. We hear it each and every year, and it tends to lose its effectiveness when it fails to ring true time and time again.

doesn't every game company do the same exact thing?

[Nza]

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doesn't every game company do the same exact thing?

Probably, but what has that got to do with it? I don't think anyone's claiming EA are the sole offenders, it's just people pointing out they've heard it all before. I don't think it warrants reading into honestly, because they're 100% right - we have heard it before. I'm not sure anyone is criticizing EA for the practice necessarily, they're just putting these statements and apparent excitement from an EA rep into perspective.

[countryboy]

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Probably, but what has that got to do with it? I don't think anyone's claiming EA are the sole offenders, it's just people pointing out they've heard it all before. I don't think it warrants reading into honestly, because they're 100% right - we have heard it before. I'm not sure anyone is criticizing EA for the practice necessarily, they're just putting these statements and apparent excitement from an EA rep into perspective.

I agree that we've heard it all before, but again that is what the man is supposed to do. It happens with every game company and thats the way it should be.

And I disagree, people will criticize EA for anything.

[Rules]

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Not sure how popular Street was, but it's no longer being made I think (could be wrong). So it makes sense for EA to bring some of its qualities to Madden.

I don't think it's a huge deal providing EA separate the two successfully. Not sure if anyone else remembers this, but Madden did use to have an Arcade mode. I distinctly remember a power-bomb style tackle and other crazy moves. I think it was Madden 2001. Maybe it was just the PC version.

I think you might be right. I just read a preview of Nascar 09 and EA is doing the same thing trying to appeal to both the hardcore and casual gamers. It sounds like it might just work and if they do the same with Madden, then we should be okay for as long as we still have our hardcore side. I don't know, I will keep my eye on it and see how it develops. Like every year, I get the game, like it for about a week and then get bored. Here is to hoping that like every year, Madden lives up to the hype.

[DLaren]

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I feel like we are past the transitional challenges and ups-and-downs that we experienced in the early years of Next Gen.

I see this statement as the highlight of the blog because by saying this he is effectively removing the crutch that Tiburon has leaned on for the last few years...

Now that they're no longer using the complexity of the hardware as an excuse for making sub-par games, I think that may be a sign that they have finally tapped into the potential of the next-gen systems; which could lead to a quality, next-gen Madden experience.

[jmood88]

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well if that is your mindset going in, then you should have no reason to be disappointed in this year's game, since its going to happen.

It's happened every other year. Last year EA was supposed to have "gotten it" since they had this guy doing blogs every week but it was the same ol thing.

I feel like we are past the transitional challenges and ups-and-downs that we experienced in the early years of Next Gen,

And it's only taken 4 years to do it!! Tiburon, just tell the truth. People wouldn't be as annoyed with the PR stuff if you just came out and said "we're making so much money that we really don't need to do anything".

[jmood88]

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And I disagree, people will criticize EA for anything.

It's not like they don't deserve to get criticized.

[K_GUN]

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lemmings just keep jumping off the ledge

[countryboy]

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It's not like they don't deserve to get criticized.

to some degree, I agree that they do. But we both know that on these boards, EA gets bashed for just about anything they do.

[jmood88]

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If they wouldn't treat their customers like they're idiots and bought up every license known to man then they wouldn't get criticized like this. Even with as much criticism as they've gotten they have just as many, if not more, defenders who will take any EA action and spin it into a positive("now that they don't have competition they can focus more on making a better game", "it's only the second year they've been on next gen systems lets wait until next year").