Madden 09 Gillette Stadium Trailer: GameTrailers

[countryboy]

Re: Madden 09 Gillette Stadium Trailer: GameTrailers

The problem is the game almost invites you to do that because of the OL/DL play though. Not trying to absolve the idiot gamers, but it's natural to want to get away from pressure. In real life it isn't that easy to move left/right to open space and have comfortable throwing lanes. In Madden, it is [easy].

I agree. But I was hoping that someone with football knowledge was playing the game and would stay in the pocket so we could get a better assessment on how the OL/DL interaction was this year.

[TDKing]

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Seemed kinda hazy inside the stadium. I thought my screen was dirty, was that a fog game ? Left over smoke from fireworks ? Are all games going to look like that ? It wasn't a crisp clear picture at all. Are they saving the clear crisp games for rivalry matchups ? Maybe it was just the quality of this video ?
I think that pass was an INT. Does the ball ever hit the ground ? It looks like that maybe the defender picks the ball up as its bouncing off the receiver.

[Nza]

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Ultimately, it's going to come down to in game AI and franchise mode for me. It's disappointing the gameplay looks more or less identical, but if the CPU AI is realistic, and franchise mode is fun but challenging and sustainable over multiple seasons, it will be a huge upgrade over what we've seen so far on the 360/ps3.

I've got a bad feeling though AI was barely touched (again), and once again franchise mode will be somehow bastardized. It would be nice for 09 to be an exception to the recent rule but I think if EA could have done significantly better in both they would have by now. With the removal of PC it is clear EA's new agenda is to only pay attention to the pinnacle of mainstream, and neither AI nor franchise mode make a dent in the mainstream as important attributes. It's strange, too, as it would have to be the only genre in sport that this is true.

[K_GUN]

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one more thing

i like the QB back-stepping.....I've seen Brady do that countless times to avoid pressure


in 2k it looked goofy when trying to back up---u couldn't actually

[baa7]

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i like the QB back-stepping.....I've seen Brady do that countless times to avoid pressure

You mean Manning? Sorry, I've never seen a QB tippy-toe backwards 10 yards behind the LOS, then tippy-toe 10 more yards backwards and sideways into the open backfield, and then tippy-toe yet another 2-3 more yards forwards before tossing a pass. And BTW, why is he even tippy-toeing? Pick up your feet Eli, and RUN!

Watch that in the vid at the 3/4 mark a few times and then tell me that looks like something you've actually seen a QB do in an NFL game. No QB tippy-toes 20+ yards backwards in a curl pattern and into the open backfield before tossing the ball. If he wants to get killed, or mocked and laughed at on ESPN Sportscenter afterwards, maybe...

[K_GUN]

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You mean Manning? Sorry, I've never seen a QB tippy-toe backwards 10 yards behind the LOS, then tippy-toe 10 more yards backwards and sideways into the open backfield, and then tippy-toe yet another 2-3 more yards forwards before tossing a pass. And BTW, why is he even tippy-toeing? Pick up your feet Eli, and RUN!

Watch that in the vid at the 3/4 mark a few times and then tell me that looks like something you've actually seen a QB do in an NFL game. No QB tippy-toes 20+ yards backwards in a curl pattern and into the open backfield before tossing the ball. If he wants to get killed, or mocked and laughed at on ESPN Sportscenter afterwards, maybe...

no not 20 yards but I HAVE seen Brady step backwards (from center of field to 5-6 yards outside hashmark)

the point trying to be made was the stepping back animation VS a qb step back in 2k



http://www.nfl.com/videos?categoryId=find


go to the 1:23 Mark.....Brady will use that back-peddle step

[bran]

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Watch Rex Grossman when he drops back too far in the pocket.

It's kinda more of a backpedal then a dropback.

Usually a sack or a fumble.

[Pared]

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After viewing the vid a few times, bottom-line the player physic and animation needs major work.
1. Sure Tackle? It seems in all Madden games 95% of the tackles are one hit and done. No struggle!!! Just two hits, the defender hitting the offensive player and the offensive player hitting the ground. BORING! and not real football. Most offensive players are taught to fight for more yards and also attempt to fall forward.
2. No driving of the legs while being tackled and the fight for more yardage. 2K did nice work on this. Pressing the A button to fight the tackle and the defender doing the same to make the tackle.
3. QB animation and throwing variances is out dated. Every QB in the league throws and moves the same??? I thought it was IN THE GAME??
4. RB should be able to make an immediate football move upon approaching defenders. This pre-determine hit and tackle needs to stop.
5. WR catching animation variance.
6. CB,S, LB ball swatting and tackle variance
7. Real gang tackling. Two or more defenders actually making a stop.

To me, these changes will make a fun/exciting football game. I might have missed a few, but I am sure it was mentioned on this forum.

One good thing I noticed was EA took out the god awful slide animation. This was highly visible during kickoffs and punt returns. The returner would normally slide to the spot in order to receive the punt. Now they move realistically per the vid. Good one EA. Now just make the rest of the animation and physic changes and we might have a game. Ha!

That's a good post. I can see they definitely put in work this year on the overlays and such...

You can see there is something going on, even if guys don't like it. Completely different from other years.

Last year looked like a decent step up... this year looks better.

[jsou4646]

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not bad for madden, still got a ways to go.

[PacMan3000]

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Stat overlays are in the game according to the Q&A session with Phil Frazier over at EA's website. I am guessing they are only available during franchise/season games.

As for the complete roster lineup, I am thinking that the human player pressed a button to skip the complete lineup overlays. I can't believe that what was shown was it. I guess I'll have to find out for myself once the game drops.

And I am not sure what you are meaning by TV camera cut scenes. There were cut scenes that showed the players close up and a TV style replay within that video.

Interesting...well, when I say TV style cuts...I mean this...turn on a football game....after a play is over, there is a tight shot of a player running or walking back to the huddle, looking up at the scoreboard, etc...then there's a shot of the coach...on touchdowns, there's shots of fans going crazy. Not to bring in 2K5 here, but I think that they captured this pretty well.

[countryboy]

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Interesting...well, when I say TV style cuts...I mean this...turn on a football game....after a play is over, there is a tight shot of a player running or walking back to the huddle, looking up at the scoreboard, etc...then there's a shot of the coach...on touchdowns, there's shots of fans going crazy. Not to bring in 2K5 here, but I think that they captured this pretty well.

Now I see what you are referring to. No, I haven't seen any of these types of shots in any of the videos released thus far. Hopefully, some of these will be added or unveiled in a video before the release.

[SageInfinite]

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They said they were adding camera cuts to the fans.

[countryboy]

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They said they were adding camera cuts to the fans.

I didn't know that.

[djordan]

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They said they were adding camera cuts to the fans.

Post that link...lol...I dont remember that

[SageInfinite]

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Sorry guys I misunderstood something I read.