Madden 09 Producer Blog: Play Call Changes: EA Sports

[BezO]

Re: Madden 09 Producer Blog: Play Call Changes: EA Sports

Sorry, I'm not interested in arguing for the sake of arguing.

Good. Niether am I. But I don't know where that came from.

and your obvious (at this point) agenda.

My agenda is to express my opinons on video games. Any assumptions you make beyond that are on you.

It's quite obvious to anyone if they look at your post history where you make claims how you've only purchased one Madden game in the past 5 years and don't plan on purchasing any others. Also, it's pretty amazing you can make so many conclusions considering you "only play at a friends house or a store kiosk since you don't rent games on principle."

Your point? Does the game play differently on other TVs & kiosks?

You have a lot of posts in the Madden forum considering you don't play the game much as you like to claim. That's a lot of time and energy spent knocking a game, again, that you don't play.

Make up your mind. Either I don't play or I play at friend's houses.

And you sure put a lot of work in to say nothing.

[ewto16]

Re: Madden 09 Producer Blog: Play Call Changes: EA Sports

ESPN News updates are a joke. In general, if I'm playing a game, I don't wnat updates and info on the real world. I want a ticker that shows info about my season on the game. Also, those updates weren't even live.

ESPN's Primetime show went away because NBC (not NFL) got the Sunday night game. As part of that package, they got the rights to the first highlight show after the games were over. ESPN lost the rights to do Primetime at that time slot. You will notice it is on at different times now.

I have no doubt that the NFL would like the NFL network to have a large presense in Madden. If using Marshall Faulk to tell me that the score of every game I play is going to be close and probably 20-23 is your idea of integration, then I feel very sorry for you.

streaming espnews updates


u ain't gonna see ESPN overlays....and b4 u drop an F-bomb on EA try to remember
that the NFL calls the shots on a lot of stuff these days when it comes to their product and hows its used.......i.e. notice how ESPN's primetime show just disappeared one year...poor ratings?...nope....the NFL wanted their show on their network to be the ones to go over game highlights (i think its called gameday)


the NFL wants THEIR network (and new team) to get the exposure, what better way to do that than use the #1 selling (and only) NFL game on the market?

still don't believe me?

anybody notice in Head Coach 09 that MEL KIPER has been replaced with ADAM SCHEFTER....of the NFL network

[BezO]

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pwned!

I've only purchased 1 Madden in the past 5 years. Thus, I only play at friend's houses. And as the game looks so far, I don't see me buying this year's version. Yeah, pwned.

[Harlemal]

Re: Madden 09 Producer Blog: Play Call Changes: EA Sports

Sorry, I'm not interested in arguing for the sake of arguing. You can do that with someone else. I'm not going to quote every single line you post and respond to feed your ridiculous claims and your obvious (at this point) agenda. It's quite obvious to anyone if they look at your post history where you make claims how you've only purchased one Madden game in the past 5 years and don't plan on purchasing any others. Also, it's pretty amazing you can make so many conclusions considering you "only play at a friends house or a store kiosk since you don't rent games on principle."

You have a lot of posts in the Madden forum considering you don't play the game much as you like to claim. That's a lot of time and energy spent knocking a game, again, that you don't play.

Others can continue to give you the attention you demand; I won't have any part of it anymore.

Enjoy.

dam u aint have to do him like dat

[ifiok25]

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streaming espnews updates


u ain't gonna see ESPN overlays....and b4 u drop an F-bomb on EA try to remember
that the NFL calls the shots on a lot of stuff these days when it comes to their product and hows its used.......i.e. notice how ESPN's primetime show just disappeared one year...poor ratings?...nope....the NFL wanted their show on their network to be the ones to go over game highlights (i think its called gameday)


the NFL wants THEIR network (and new team) to get the exposure, what better way to do that than use the #1 selling (and only) NFL game on the market?

still don't believe me?

anybody notice in Head Coach 09 that MEL KIPER has been replaced with ADAM SCHEFTER....of the NFL network

I agree with you though. They should have never gotten the ESPN license for Madden at least in the first place. The NFL has to use it's own people/graphics or some that somewhat resemble the network. Why else did they scrap the bar across the bottom/top of the screen as a scoreboard? As long as we have stat tracks after each play ala NFL on CBS then I'll be pretty happy.

Also, I actually like NFL Gameday better than the new NFL Primetime w/out Berman and Jackson until the playoffs. NFLN's highlights were much more in depth, than the ones on ESPN.

[K_GUN]

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1. whether it's seen as a joke or not is NOT the issue.......the ESPN license IS being used

2. good point.....NBC would naturally take the highlight show

3. take you pity elsewhere.....I'm just trying to tell you that EA can't get the blame on the ESPN license not getting used the way it's been used in other games

ESPN News updates are a joke. In general, if I'm playing a game, I don't wnat updates and info on the real world. I want a ticker that shows info about my season on the game. Also, those updates weren't even live.

ESPN's Primetime show went away because NBC (not NFL) got the Sunday night game. As part of that package, they got the rights to the first highlight show after the games were over. ESPN lost the rights to do Primetime at that time slot. You will notice it is on at different times now.

I have no doubt that the NFL would like the NFL network to have a large presense in Madden. If using Marshall Faulk to tell me that the score of every game I play is going to be close and probably 20-23 is your idea of integration, then I feel very sorry for you.

[RaychelSnr]

Looks like the blitz is coming soon...so far the changes have definitely been positive. From what I hear there is a lot more to come. From what I hear the guys at EA are really pleased with this year, it's really a different tone this year. I'm still highly skeptical because the last 3 years weren't all that good. We'll see, so far so good..cautiously optimistic right now...

[K_GUN]

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I've only purchased 1 Madden in the past 5 years. Thus, I only play at friend's houses. And as the game looks so far, I don't see me buying this year's version. Yeah, pwned.

once in 5 years?

friends house?

NOT getting this years version?

YET still in this forum?

Troll

[countryboy]

Re: Madden 09 Producer Blog: Play Call Changes: EA Sports

Liked what I read and saw. Looking forward to more information.

[ifiok25]

Re: Madden 09 Producer Blog: Play Call Changes: EA Sports

I really like the new play call screen. Better than the one they started to use on Madden 2004-07.

[sva91]

Re: Madden 09 Producer Blog: Play Call Changes: EA Sports

once in 5 years?

friends house?

NOT getting this years version?

YET still in this forum?

Troll

Not trying to defend this guy, but when you are a diehard NFL fan and a frequent gamer, and there is only ONE choice for a nfl football game, I think a forum is the only place where you can let your feelings, ideas, etc. out to keep the developers in check. But then again I guess we can keep the negativity on certain threads or Wishlists.

I havent bought Madden the past 2 years, but every year I check the forums and get hyped up upon it's release. I think this year may be a turning point for the franchise.

[ewto16]

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1. whether it's seen as a joke or not is NOT the issue.......the ESPN license IS being used

2. good point.....NBC would naturally take the highlight show

3. take you pity elsewhere.....I'm just trying to tell you that EA can't get the blame on the ESPN license not getting used the way it's been used in other games

It is people like yourself that are satisfied with the piss-poor use of a fantastic license that EA loves. Why would you not want or expect more from the ESPN license?? There are all sorts of things that EA could do with it.

From a technical perspective, yes you are right, they do use it. Too bad they could have made a score ticker without even having ESPN involved. It is such a slap in the face to limit the usage to something as meaningless as a score ticker.

Please tell me how the ESPN license is being used in other games that makes it so fantastic and such a WONDERFUL exclusive for EA. I've certainly played my fair share of EA Sports games and I can't think of anyway that it is truly utilized effectively. It isn't just Madden being limited by the NFL Network. EA does nothing with it.

NCAA actually changed it from SI to ESPN magazine this year, but that is the only difference. The rest is the same. Outside of a ticker and pre-recorded ESPN News updates, how are they using the license?

Not used in TW, not used in NHL, not used in Madden. Did they do something amazing with it in NASCAR, Live, or March Madness?

[ausar72]

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What happens to the PIP screen, when it's two players playing on the same console? What happens to the replays and stats when it's two people on the same console? Are there different "TV-Style" camera angles to the replays or just replays from behind the center like you see when you are playing the game normally?

I think the graphics look cool, but I need to see if they actually are doing broadcast-style presentation or just some weird approximation of it. Why can't they just go for what we see on TV as opposed to trying to reinvent the wheel with this "beyond-broadcast" presentation they are talking up?

[Pared]

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It is people like yourself that are satisfied with the piss-poor use of a fantastic license that EA loves. Why would you not want or expect more from the ESPN license?? There are all sorts of things that EA could do with it.

From a technical perspective, yes you are right, they do use it. Too bad they could have made a score ticker without even having ESPN involved. It is such a slap in the face to limit the usage to something as meaningless as a score ticker.

Please tell me how the ESPN license is being used in other games that makes it so fantastic and such a WONDERFUL exclusive for EA. I've certainly played my fair share of EA Sports games and I can't think of anyway that it is truly utilized effectively. It isn't just Madden being limited by the NFL Network. EA does nothing with it.

NCAA actually changed it from SI to ESPN magazine this year, but that is the only difference. The rest is the same. Outside of a ticker and pre-recorded ESPN News updates, how are they using the license?

Not used in TW, not used in NHL, not used in Madden. Did they do something amazing with it in NASCAR, Live, or March Madness?

Here's the thing that a lot of people don't get:

You're not going to see the ESPN Network and all of its coverage like you do on TV because EA Sports is more interested in promoting their own label than ESPN's.

It's that simple.

2k may have used the license to re-create what you see on TV... which, if you REALLY think about it, was almost a detriment to them.

You and others here who frequent video games boards know 2k Sports made ESPN NFL 2k5. Just look at the name: ESPN NFL 2k5.

I went to buy this game a while back with a co-worker and she said "She didn't know ESPN made video games."

Ask anyone if they know about Madden and EA Sports and they will most likely tell you yes. A hell of a lot more so than 2k Sports.

If you want presentation... fine, can't argue there. EA Sports IMO should make their own network... much like had back in the day, with the EASN. However, they were attacked by ESPN and had to squash it... Why?



See any similarities?

So the use of the ESPN license isn't going to happen in a way you guys think it will. If anything, they have more interest in pairing themselves with the NFL and there's more a chance of us seeing an NFL Network type broadcast for the sole reason of keeping the NFL exclusively.

[BezO]

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once in 5 years?

friends house?

NOT getting this years version?

YET still in this forum?

Troll

Nah, just want the game to be good. And I don't know if I'm getting this year's version. I haven't seen the finished product. I said I don't see me getting it. That statement was based on info up to the date of the post. If impressive new info & vids come out, I'd get it.

Even if I weren't getting this year's game, it's not because of some sort of hate for Madden. I still want the game to be good so I can buy it. The primary reason I post my complaints here are so they can be seen, not because of some kind of hate for EA. For whatever reason, when folks make negative comments about the game, people make assumptions.