NCAA Football 09 Video Interview and Official Movie 2: GameSpot

[BrianFifaFan]

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I agree that the offense looks a little too formidable but I'm going to guess that the video was shown on one of the lower two difficulty settings.

The real key about defense will be about how DE play has been improved and also how cover has been improved. The things about the passing game and pass defense in the EA games is that the DB's make too many plays because the QB AI is very limited in how it can throw the ball.

In real life a WR may be effectively defended just by a CB doing a good job running with him and the QB might still try to complete a pass but will just throw a much more difficult ball for any player on the field to get often resulting in a clean miss of anyone. In the EA football games the only incomplete passes seem to be on passes that are defended by a DB (or leaping LB). They're never simply missed because the QB had to throw a tough pass to both try and complete it and to keep it from being turned over. This relates back to the passing mechanics in the game and the QB throw power and accuracy ratings which I've never really felt were implemented very well.

Yeah that comes back to that being fun and finding that sweet spot. It 's just like penalties. I've never understood why there aren't more. If I'm playing in a hostile stadium and have a RT who's rated a 78 vs. a DE who's rated 92 what's the issue? It's false starts and holds all day unless I get him blocking help. And his composure should be up and down all game based on his performance. Same with LB's covering TE's or your poor corner trying for dear life to cover Randy Moss. No proper help or calling the right Defense, it's PI or burnt. I love to win as my Bengals but all of these factors as well as Team Chemistry should be challenges that I have to overcome. Sorry I'm mixing games/forums. But you get my point. Those kind of things are football. It affects Pros and really affects College kids. I think that they're trying to implement that. It just matters that it isn't window dressing. The QB with a low composure rating should really be short arming the throws or just be behind on the crossing route or slant. It'll make you start dinking and dunking to get his composure up and calling blocking help for that RT who can't handle that DE alone. That's FUN!!!!!!

[kenneth33]

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It's not a "pocket" problem. It's a blocking mechanic problem. Yes, there is a curved formation in front of the QB, but the DEs are still stuck to the OTs. It looks like a pocket, but I don't think this is what most have in mind.

2 things I'd like to see: 1. A system where the blocker & defender don't always engage. They need a way for blocks to be successful without the defender getting stuck to the blocker. Sometimes a successful block is simply sealing a defender off. Blockers shouldn't be able to stop defenders from moving laterally without holding.

2. The engaged blocks need some mobility. When players are engaged, they need to be able to flow towards the play. This is another way a block can be successful without nulifiying the defender completely, or pancaking him. The blocker should be able to ride the defender beyond the play.

With this "pocket" we see in the vids, QBs can still moonwalk out of the pocket because these 2 things are not in the game. It doesn't matter that the DE/OT get depth if they're still stuck to eachother. The DEs need to be able to move freely, except through the OT. Add some hand fighting.

I did see one promising clip where an Auburn DE was touched by an OT but didn't engage. But I think it was because of a well timed swim move. But it looked perfect.

There is a way to stop that moonwalking easy use dbl outside LB blitz!!! Yes i know we should not have to do it but it can be stopped very simple... As for a gaming being sim well it's kind of hard to my someone play sim just look at allpro2k8 some of the online ppl do the same thing dropping back going to the side line all i can say is thank god for friend list on the 360!!

[MacPlex]

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At first glance I was thinking that after all these years of mostly playing ncaa that i was goin to switch to madden. One of the main reasons being 32 players in a league instead of 12(ncaa). But the amount of work they have put into their online dynasty is amazing hoping i can jus find sum str8 players.

I love playing people who like the scramble like they do on all these vids, because its so easy to stop jus takes smart D-calls and slight adjustments. The people who do this rarely feel comfortable in the pocket and they have to adjust their O beacuse their passing angles will be completly off. EASY WIN online. Ncaa is starting to remind me of that someone you love, yea she has flaws that piss you off so much you want to choke her, but at the end of the day you're still for her.

[Dame]

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online dynasty is turning out to be a beast.

[Rocky]

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Asid from being able to leave the pocket at will, it doesn't look half bad. I like the spacing and player proportions this year. I can already see some slider adjustments I need to make though.

[noplace]

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It's not a "pocket" problem. It's a blocking mechanic problem. Yes, there is a curved formation in front of the QB, but the DEs are still stuck to the OTs. It looks like a pocket, but I don't think this is what most have in mind.

2 things I'd like to see: 1. A system where the blocker & defender don't always engage. They need a way for blocks to be successful without the defender getting stuck to the blocker. Sometimes a successful block is simply sealing a defender off. Blockers shouldn't be able to stop defenders from moving laterally without holding.

2. The engaged blocks need some mobility. When players are engaged, they need to be able to flow towards the play. This is another way a block can be successful without nulifiying the defender completely, or pancaking him. The blocker should be able to ride the defender beyond the play.

With this "pocket" we see in the vids, QBs can still moonwalk out of the pocket because these 2 things are not in the game. It doesn't matter that the DE/OT get depth if they're still stuck to eachother. The DEs need to be able to move freely, except through the OT. Add some hand fighting.

I did see one promising clip where an Auburn DE was touched by an OT but didn't engage. But I think it was because of a well timed swim move. But it looked perfect.

NO doubt on all points but this is what we get. I hope the sliders like break block will at least make it more bearable. EA has yet another year to work on OL/DL play but from what I've seen its not happening this year.

[Sausage]

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At 1 minute and 19 seconds it shows a user controlling Oklahoma on the online dynasty screen and the game against FCS Southeast the user won 90-7. I mean I don't if that means anything, but it makes me nervous.

[AuburnAlumni]

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The gameplay looks really good IMO...REALLY good. Fluid, fast, nice animation flow. The player models look phenomenal.

I'm pretty pumped. Especially after knowing I can upload my Auburn Marching Band CD and FINALLY...FINALLY have the Auburn Fight Song in the game, along with fully customizable online dynasty.

With folks who play realistically, this game is looking REALLY good. I'm more excited now than I was before.

On a side note..it's nice to see so many vids with Auburn in them.

[seanmac]

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It's not a "pocket" problem. It's a blocking mechanic problem. Yes, there is a curved formation in front of the QB, but the DEs are still stuck to the OTs. It looks like a pocket, but I don't think this is what most have in mind.

2 things I'd like to see: 1. A system where the blocker & defender don't always engage. They need a way for blocks to be successful without the defender getting stuck to the blocker. Sometimes a successful block is simply sealing a defender off. Blockers shouldn't be able to stop defenders from moving laterally without holding.

2. The engaged blocks need some mobility. When players are engaged, they need to be able to flow towards the play. This is another way a block can be successful without nulifiying the defender completely, or pancaking him. The blocker should be able to ride the defender beyond the play.

With this "pocket" we see in the vids, QBs can still moonwalk out of the pocket because these 2 things are not in the game. It doesn't matter that the DE/OT get depth if they're still stuck to eachother. The DEs need to be able to move freely, except through the OT. Add some hand fighting.

I did see one promising clip where an Auburn DE was touched by an OT but didn't engage. But I think it was because of a well timed swim move. But it looked perfect.

Beautifully said. I would add a third thing- interior linemen who are not engaged need to help out their teammates rather than standing around doing nothing. All of the OL/DL interactions are 1-on-1, when in reality teams make sure they have enough blockers to double-team at least one if not two of the defenders. Never happens in EA games.

[babyfat9]

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I'm still extremely dissapointed with the pregame....Next Gen game with all the power and it's still lacking from that of the Old Gen....plus it's been 8 years now.....at least EA can add new commentaries from Corso and the boys !!!!!!

[Badboy49er]

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Im impressed the game is looking very good to me. So far more so than what ive seen of Madden so far. The online dynasties up to 60 seasons is phenominal....especially being able to kick and bring in new players and or teams. Funny how in the interview they take a shot at Madden only being able to play 1 year online league vs 60 for NCAA lol.

I have also liked the fast and fluid movement NCAA seems to have as well...im getting hyped for this game the more i see it

[MacPlex]

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Funny how in the interview they take a shot at Madden only being able to play 1 year online league vs 60 for NCAA lol.

This makes me w/ all of this ncaa has no comp. Its good to know they try to outdue each other.

[countryboy]

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I'm still extremely dissapointed with the pregame....Next Gen game with all the power and it's still lacking from that of the Old Gen....plus it's been 8 years now.....at least EA can add new commentaries from Corso and the boys !!!!!!

agreed.

Nothing gets me more pumped for a game then seeing a coin flip high above the stadium.

[muggins]

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Gameplay looks same old same old but this could be baby football and I'd buy it for online dynasty. At least it sounds like they really did something non-half *** with a feature for a change.

[stunna23]

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Wow, this online dynasty looks and sounds absolutely incredible. It almost sounds too good to be true, I can't wait until July 15th!