Formation Subs: Yay or Nay?

[RaychelSnr]

Wil McCombs checks in today with a look at formation subs, and why they should make it into NCAA Football 2010. Check out his article, Formation Subs: Yay or Nay?

"Picture this, along with assigning six audibles to each formation, you also have the ability to assign two custom personnel packages. You also have the ability to name them. Now, you can show your offensive genius by creating new and exciting personnel packages to accentuate certain plays, AND you can access them seamlessly through the normal playcalling screen."

[hustle55]

Great write up!! I agree with all that you said

[Solidice]

Re: Formation Subs: Yay or Nay?

i agree about formation packages can help out on formation subs not being in, and custom packages would make it better, but for me at least, the big thing about formation subs was being able to set your special teams up. the depth chart only allows you to "assign" the Kicker/Punter/Kickoff guy, Long Snapper, and the KR/PR guys, but what about the rest of the special team guys?

I didn't use the formation packages that much in '08, mainly because is wasn't very quick to use, especially if you passed the one you wanted, so you had to cycle all the way through. for '09 though, it was changes to the R-thumb stick, so I'll probably use it alot more this year.

as for stopping "cheesing". they could have it to where you can only select "logical" people to put in a position(like OLB can be subed in for DEs, TEs for WRs, etc.). or make the ratings actually mean something.

[jestr962]

If Formation Subs are that much of a pain in *ss for EA, then just disable them for ranked online play. Don't punish all of us b/c a couple pricks don't want to learn how to play the game the right way. I personally like to have my fastest/ quickest guys in the slot, as I would expect most others to prefer as well. And formation subs are perhaps most effective on defense, especially with the new ratings Ea incorporated last year.

[ODogg]

Re: Formation Subs: Yay or Nay?

I'd really like it so that you could have just ONE guy back for kick returns and not two.

[muggins]

I agree with jester962. There is no reason not to have formation subs in this game for my dynasty. It is lazy.

[BezO]

Re: Formation Subs: Yay or Nay?

...but for me at least, the big thing about formation subs was being able to set your special teams up...

I'd really like it so that you could have just ONE guy back for kick returns and not two.

Quoted for cosignage.

[FatJoe399]

Just for accuracy, Mr. McCombs, there was a Wild Hog formation for Arkansas but you couldn't seamlessly put McFadden in at QB.

[Russell_SCEA]

Re: Formation Subs: Yay or Nay?

Just for accuracy, Mr. McCombs, there was a Wild Hog formation for Arkansas but you couldn't seamlessly put McFadden in at QB.

Yes you could all you had to do was hit the sub button from the play call screen.

[janglar]

I'm all for the formation subs. If last gen could do it, why can't current gen?

[Scott]

Re: Formation Subs: Yay or Nay?

All I want to be able to change is my KO Return, KO team and the holder...

[ac11367]

I'm all for formation sub as long as the defense is correctly notified of the package. For example, if some cheeser wants to sub a WR for a TE on a pro set, the defense should be presented with a notification of 2 RB, 3 WR, not 2 RB, 1 TE, 2 WR.

[ODogg]

Re: Formation Subs: Yay or Nay?

I'm all for formation sub as long as the defense is correctly notified of the package. For example, if some cheeser wants to sub a WR for a TE on a pro set, the defense should be presented with a notification of 2 RB, 3 WR, not 2 RB, 1 TE, 2 WR.

Formation subs, when implemented, should still NOT allow those kinds of BS subs. Or if EA decides to allow it, the players should take a ratings hit that is significant.

[FredoXV]

Just for accuracy, Mr. McCombs, there was a Wild Hog formation for Arkansas but you couldn't seamlessly put McFadden in at QB.

You sir, are correct, although it is called the Wildcat.

Although you can seamlessly place McFadden in the QB slot with package called HB QB Sub.

Apologies on this factual error.

[ac11367]

Re: Formation Subs: Yay or Nay?

Formation subs, when implemented, should still NOT allow those kinds of BS subs. Or if EA decides to allow it, the players should take a ratings hit that is significant.

I don't think a ratings hit is warranted. If I'm notified of the correct offensive package, I'll have enough to make an informed decision about what defensive personnel/defensive play to put out there. If they decide to sub a WR in place of a QB, I'll definitely needed to be informed.