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  • DickDalewood

    #1246
    Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

    Originally posted by OMT
    I can't find the original post asking this, but someone had said they couldn't find the pistol in LSU's playbook, but saw the CPU run it on them.

    I took a look at the demo and retail and I think I figured out what was going on here.

    First off, the playbook in the demo is totally different from the LSU playbook in the retail.

    In the final game, there will be Pistol - Ace.

    In the demo playbook, they have one formation called Shotgun - Spread Flex. In this formation, the QB is a step or two closer to the center than all the other shotgun formations. This is probably what they were using when you saw the CPU come out in the pistol formation.

    Spread Flex isn't in the final LSU playbook, but they do have Shotgun - 4WR trio str in the final playbook that has the QB a little closer to center than all the other shotgun plays.

    The playbook blog has all the formations from the final version for LSU. I just copied them out of there.

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    Any word on those PS3 bugs yet?

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    • OMT
      MVP
      • Jun 2008
      • 2997

      #1247
      Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

      Originally posted by dickdalewood
      Any word on those PS3 bugs yet?
      The QB walking in place happens sometimes in shotgun plays right? We aren't seeing it in final.

      Our QA guys tell me they have never seen the Oline problem.

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      • MacPlex
        Banned
        • Apr 2008
        • 517

        #1248
        Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

        Originally posted by Teddy_Long
        anyone noticed the slip screen is a money play every time?

        btw, is anyone having success running the ball against LSU?
        Heck no its not money every time. Ive had it sniffed at multiple times by Lsu's #93 Jackson, the other end and also a LB.

        And no the animations are way smoother on 09 compared to 08(Ps3)

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        • OMT
          MVP
          • Jun 2008
          • 2997

          #1249
          Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

          Originally posted by MacPlex
          Heck no its not money every time. Ive had it sniffed at multiple times by Lsu's #93 Jackson, the other end and also a LB.

          And no the animations are way smoother on 09 compared to 08(Ps3)
          I have been told that man defense is the antidote to the screen passes.

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          • Scott
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            • Jul 2002
            • 20032

            #1250
            Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

            DE Contain is a great solution to the HB Slip Screen.
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            • drlw322
              MVP
              • Jun 2007
              • 1424

              #1251
              Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

              how are you again OMT, just wondering if you found anything out about the few glitches i found.

              1. QB lining off center, behind the center before snap (not in 360 demo)

              2. auto replay (no ball rotation and footsliding) (not in 360 demo).

              3. ball disappears while switching ball hand while running. (not so much in the 360 version, but everytime in the ps3 version)

              thank again for your hardwork. i really want to get the ps3 version, but if these things dont get fix, i would have to get both version cause the online dynasty league im in. i would like to play my offline dynasty on the better version (360). so it also means i have to get both version of madden also because of draft classes.

              which is not that bad since you guys hook me up with $20 per game from EA store.(thank you)
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              • therizing02
                MVP
                • Apr 2003
                • 4176

                #1252
                Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                OMT,

                Thanks for posting man. A couple observations from the demo:

                -On fourth down when I'm on defense there is nothing in the Offensive Personnel box that states if the K or P is on the field. How do I know if the offense is going for a first down or kicking?

                -During gameplay the score bar on the bottom of the screen does not show what yardline the ball is on.

                Will these be fixed in the retail version?

                Thanks man.
                Last edited by therizing02; 06-23-2008, 01:09 PM.

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                • Solidice
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                  • Jul 2006
                  • 9954

                  #1253
                  Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                  Originally posted by therizing02
                  -During gameplay the score bar on the bottom of the screen does not show what yardline the ball is on.
                  it shows up on the playcall screen now. lower right corner of it.
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                  • J-Unit40
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                    • Sep 2005
                    • 8261

                    #1254
                    Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                    Originally posted by Scott
                    DE Contain is a great solution to the HB Slip Screen.
                    Bingo! The DE's just wait for the release and snarf it out.
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                    • PVarck31
                      Moderator
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16869

                      #1255
                      Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                      Originally posted by J-Unit40
                      Bingo! The DE's just wait for the release and snarf it out.
                      You said SNARF, that's an old football term.

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                      • J-Unit40
                        Boom!!
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 8261

                        #1256
                        Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                        Originally posted by pjv31
                        You said SNARF, that's an old football term.
                        You know it. Those 2K announcers always use it. It cracks me up sometimes.
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                        • Burkeman
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 31

                          #1257
                          Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                          One small thing that really bothered me last night - a shot looking back at the sidelines after a score showed the players doing one of about 4-5 different action sequences - kneeling, jumping w/fist raised, fist pump, etc. 15-20 yards later, the same action sequences repeated by the next set of players on the sideline.

                          Yuck.

                          I'll take last year's zombies over this kind of stiff "animation" any day. Please tell me this is not how the bench is going to look in the final version?

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                          • Psyblast
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                            • Jun 2003
                            • 42584

                            #1258
                            Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                            Sick, I pinned LSU at their own goalline and forced a punt, I called Punt Block and completely broke through and blocked it out of the endzone for a safety.

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                            • babyfat9
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1722

                              #1259
                              Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                              Originally posted by Burkeman
                              One small thing that really bothered me last night - a shot looking back at the sidelines after a score showed the players doing one of about 4-5 different action sequences - kneeling, jumping w/fist raised, fist pump, etc. 15-20 yards later, the same action sequences repeated by the next set of players on the sideline.

                              Yuck.

                              I'll take last year's zombies over this kind of stiff "animation" any day. Please tell me this is not how the bench is going to look in the final version?
                              I Don't think EA cares much bout sideline animation...if they did they could make it so much better....I'm missing the Cool Zone more then anything...be nice to have benches where some players are sitting down as well and even see a coach on the sideline!!!!
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                              • DGuinta1
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                                • Aug 2004
                                • 2706

                                #1260
                                Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                                I am sure this has been mentioned, but the LB's still seem to have jet packs and great hands on intercepting balls. Annoying!
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