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  • shaunlmason
    Pro
    • Nov 2002
    • 745

    #1516
    Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

    I think the step up in speed for rookies is largely a mental one.

    Quarterbacks make quicker reads in the NLF.

    Defensive players are more aware, etc.

    The flip side of that is the premium on speed in the NFL.

    In college, you may have a few really fast guys one each team.

    The NFL is loaded with them.

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    • babyfat9
      MVP
      • Dec 2007
      • 1722

      #1517
      Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

      So I was playing a game, everything went fine in the first half. Second half comes around and i don't get a kicking meter or no play windows to choose from for the entire 3 and 4th quarter. Dunno if it was something I did or the game itself !!!!!!
      The University of Miami
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      • HustlinOwl
        All Star
        • Mar 2004
        • 9713

        #1518
        Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

        Originally posted by babyfat9
        So I was playing a game, everything went fine in the first half. Second half comes around and i don't get a kicking meter or no play windows to choose from for the entire 3 and 4th quarter. Dunno if it was something I did or the game itself !!!!!!
        Had this happen to me as well, definitely the game

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #1519
          Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

          Originally posted by BTG
          I didn't like the demo at all when I first downloaded it. I thought there the game was still crap and didn't feel right. My biggest problem, though, was that I just wasn't used to the controls. I adjusted them last year so they were more like the PS2 version, and that screwed me in the long run. Now that I'm used to the controls, I am really having fun with the demo. I put a whooping on LSU last night 28-10.

          All I can say is I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE the new dynamic where the safeties shift and move around before the snap. It's great to be able to make presnap reads and adjust the player's routes to exploit where I think the weakness is going to be.

          EXAMPLE:

          Last night I had the ball close to the right hash and had called a pass play - ace formation with two receivers and a TE on the right side. The free safety lined up like normal, then started creeping back and over towards the middle of the field. The strong didn't move. Immediately two things came to mind: cover 1 or cover 3. I already had my tight end running a quick out, so I hot-routed my two receivers on the right side to a 10 yard out route and a streak. Sure enough when I snapped the ball the free backed into his deep zone and the strong stepped up into the hook/curl zone while the linebackers all dropped into coverage. Cover 3.

          Let me explain some basic football really quick. Because it's cover 3 the streak route is almost completely taken away by the deep corner on that side, so I'm left with the high/low option of the ten yard out and the quick out. In real life, this is a gimmee throw, because the linebacker has to choose one guy to defend. If he steps up you throw over him. If he backs out you throw under him.

          NOW COMES THE TEST OF THE GAME.

          In previous versions this linebacker was able to miraculously cover two receivers at the same time. On this game, however, he dropped back, I dumped it down to my TE no problem, and ended up with a nice six yard completion. That one play made me so happy....it finally works the way it's supposed to.

          This doesn't always work, of course (meaning presnap reads). Many times the CPU will disguise their coverage or shift around like crazy trying to bait you into doing something. But that makes it even more fun, IMO. Also, the slip screens are things of beauty. Simply gorgeous when run correctly. The linemen finally block downfield for you and the back sells that he's blocking first. Bravo, EA. You finally got screens right (it only took 10 years).

          -----

          One major major problem: I HATE THAT THE CPU IN SUCH A HURRY ON OFFENSE! They routinely snap the ball with 16 seconds left on the play clock. I can't even make any sort of defensive adjustments. BigWill33 over at MM told me "The producers addressed the cpu snapping the ball so quickly, they said they did research and the majority of the gamers didn't like waiting for the cpu to snap the ball. And that they would rather have a faster paced game."

          Well la-de-da. Basically we're penalized because "the majority of gamers" have ADD. Fantastic.
          Wonderful post!

          I hate that posts like yours get overlooked and people would rather discuss how the game seems dull or other negative items when they can't even dissect the improvements!

          I look at the evolution of games in a similar manner and always can appreciate it when others do the same.
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          • Rocky
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 6896

            #1520
            Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

            Originally posted by Pared
            Wonderful post!

            I hate that posts like yours get overlooked and people would rather discuss how the game seems dull or other negative items when they can't even dissect the improvements!

            I look at the evolution of games in a similar manner and always can appreciate it when others do the same.
            So we should applaud when a terrible feature gets fixed? I thought that was supposed to happen.

            NCAA gets so many free passes(especially compared to Madden), it's ridiculous.
            "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
            -Rocky Balboa

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            • brahmagoul
              MVP
              • Jun 2003
              • 1860

              #1521
              Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

              I don't know if this has been discussed, but I've played the demos for both the 360 and PS3. Surprisingly, the graphics are clearer on the 360. I also noticed the PS3 version is in a letterbox, but when I quit out of it, my options to quit the game or shut down the console were displayed much larger than normal. Don't know what's going on there, but I wanted to bring this up. Any thoughts? I thought both systems would be on par this year.
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              • HeadShot
                Rookie
                • Jul 2008
                • 2

                #1522
                Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                Havent gotten a chance to read through everything...but

                Slip screens seems to work every single time...I know it will be harder to get these to go for 80 yards against a real person...

                I like the nice addition of the slip screen...More realistic.

                Wish they would give us 2 more teams to pick from...but I know its a Demo...

                Thought the gameplay was very smooth compared to previous years.

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                • vanderbiltfan87
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 204

                  #1523
                  Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                  so i work with a guy that loves football and usually just plays madden. this guy is a big tennessee fan but never plays ncaa. of course i nag at him all the time that he should give ncaa a try. (btw this is well before the demo came out and before much info was released about 09) so the demo comes out, and i'm stoked. told him the next at work to download it and see what he thinks. i talked to him a few days later, and he's already played it at least 20 times. he wasn't even going to buy the game and now can't wait for it. he's already working on a recruiting strategy for his offline dynasty with ut. lol. but anyway, i think this shows how much this game has progressed, luring in someone who never plays ncaa.

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                  • servo75
                    Pro
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 803

                    #1524
                    Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                    First - I definitely notice the 60fps on the PS3. Definitely a good change. The new lighting is awesome too, though playing the demo at "sunset", there is definitely a lot of saturation between the crowd and field.

                    It seems more difficult to generate offense though. My QB is getting sacked before he can even hand the ball off. There's almost no OL blocking even on varsity.

                    What's with these new animations in mascot game? Why do some players, instead of juking, do a flip in mid-run? That's very strange.

                    And the routes on the field are VERY light. Has that been fixed?
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                    • Niq54
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 40

                      #1525
                      Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                      Guys, I'm so excited about this year's release. Actually, I just came to my mom's house and my mom had my MADDEN 2001 here. I was like damn. That's right Madden 01 the first one for PS2. So I had to immediately play it as soon as I could...terrible! I destroyed the computer on All-Madden with Ryan Leaf. I did however like some the features in the game. I personally believe the roster editing screen and process is probably the best in all versions of madden. It gives you the option to edit one attribute at a time or edit all of them. I think would would be extremely valuable when making large roster re-rates. And I could not believe and didn't remember (my how time flies) but that there was a create/edit a coach feature. I wish they'd make a collector's edition of NCAA where you could see all the improvements over the years...like Madden 05.

                      Anyway, I'll see people online next Monday night...
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                      • babyfat9
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                        • Dec 2007
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                        #1526
                        Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                        One thing I dislike is when a receiver jumps to snatch a high pass...he's way up in the air and the defender can hardly even get off the ground to try and intercept the ball.
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                        • Solidice
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                          • Jul 2006
                          • 9928

                          #1527
                          Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                          Originally posted by Tiesto
                          One thing I dislike is when a receiver jumps to snatch a high pass...he's way up in the air and the defender can hardly even get off the ground to try and intercept the ball.
                          that why i normally just hit the receiver while in the air and make him drop the ball.
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                          • Old Gold and Blue
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                            • Jul 2008
                            • 67

                            #1528
                            Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                            I like the demo a lot, although there are a few problems I'm sure that have already been pointed out.

                            One thing though is for some reason the CPU decided to become completely unstoppable on offense today and I actually lost two games (outta three) even though I won every single time I played before today. (which was a lot of games)

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                            • servo75
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                              • Jun 2008
                              • 803

                              #1529
                              Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                              Originally posted by Tiesto
                              One thing I dislike is when a receiver jumps to snatch a high pass...he's way up in the air and the defender can hardly even get off the ground to try and intercept the ball.
                              I have the opposite problem on 08. The defender jumps high in the air to intercept and the receiver just stands there and watches.
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                              • Mjphillips
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                                • Feb 2005
                                • 1153

                                #1530
                                Re: NCAA Football 09 Demo Available: Discuss Here

                                Straight up though. I have had more fun with the demo than I have in 3 years of next gen NCAA and Madden. I know the level is easy but they go deep and they pound the ball. I am very pleased. I only play with LSU becasue OSu seems unstoppable at times to me. I just have to beat them. I want to know if I can use the option this year without it being cheap. Last year and even on this demo it seems pretty easy to get to the outside to either keep it or pitch it. What do yall think?
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