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  • Flyermania
    MVP
    • Jun 2004
    • 2182

    #16
    Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

    Originally posted by StatMan79
    Am I really the only one that doesn't care about dumping and chasing being in the game for the sake of realism? These are the worst parts of real hockey - I certainly don't want to be playing dump and watch in a video game.
    Yes, you are. j/k

    I think it should definitely be in the game. You may not always choose to use it, but it is such a common facet of the game that it needs to be in there.
    "And by the way, you know, when you're telling these little stories? Here's a good idea - have a POINT. It makes it SO much more interesting for the listener!"

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    • mdgoalie37
      MVP
      • Apr 2006
      • 1456

      #17
      Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

      yeah, I've had plays where I stood up my guys at the blue line and the CPU will dance around in the nuetral zone trying to find a hole instead of dumping it in. IRL teams would always dump the puck and get after it. I hate when CPU players skate towards the boards and then do this piroette (sp) towards the middle of the ice - never seen that done IRL.

      This would also help with line changes. Of course it would help if the guys would actually come off the ice when you dump it.
      "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."
      -- Norm Peterson

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      • tgalv
        Banned
        • Jan 2007
        • 617

        #18
        Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

        you can dump and chase in the current game, you just have to do it smartly and practice doing it so you're not just turning it over every time. you need to use the saucer pass and the saucer pass dump shot. the problem is there's no point of doing it because the D gives up the line. i'm fine with it the way it is. if everything was all congested like the nhl and you were always forced to move the puck a certain way then dump it like real hockey, the game would get boring.

        they do need to tighten up the D a little though. you shouldn't just be able to pass the puck to a fast guy and skate around in circles and have no one be able to take the puck away. and maxim afinogenov, pierre-marc bouchard, and 3rd line guys with 90s for speed shouldn't be the guys you'd go to for a cheap goal, instead of a guy with skills but not speed like rick nash.

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        • mdgoalie37
          MVP
          • Apr 2006
          • 1456

          #19
          Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

          Originally posted by tgalv
          you can dump and chase in the current game, you just have to do it smartly and practice doing it so you're not just turning it over every time. you need to use the saucer pass and the saucer pass dump shot. the problem is there's no point of doing it because the D gives up the line. i'm fine with it the way it is. if everything was all congested like the nhl and you were always forced to move the puck a certain way then dump it like real hockey, the game would get boring.

          they do need to tighten up the D a little though. you shouldn't just be able to pass the puck to a fast guy and skate around in circles and have no one be able to take the puck away. and maxim afinogenov, pierre-marc bouchard, and 3rd line guys with 90s for speed shouldn't be the guys you'd go to for a cheap goal, instead of a guy with skills but not speed like rick nash.
          I like to dump on occasion and get on the forecheck. I think one of the issues is that the CPU won't.
          "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."
          -- Norm Peterson

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          • iPoneU512
            Rookie
            • Jul 2008
            • 2

            #20
            my advice for BDawg is to try and put as many pucks on net as possble

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            • iPoneU512
              Rookie
              • Jul 2008
              • 2

              #21
              also i was wundering if anyone new wat the user golie controls would be like on NHL09

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              • pf8363
                Pro
                • May 2006
                • 652

                #22
                Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

                Originally posted by tgalv
                you can dump and chase in the current game, you just have to do it smartly and practice doing it so you're not just turning it over every time. you need to use the saucer pass and the saucer pass dump shot. the problem is there's no point of doing it because the D gives up the line. i'm fine with it the way it is. if everything was all congested like the nhl and you were always forced to move the puck a certain way then dump it like real hockey, the game would get boring.

                they do need to tighten up the D a little though. you shouldn't just be able to pass the puck to a fast guy and skate around in circles and have no one be able to take the puck away. and maxim afinogenov, pierre-marc bouchard, and 3rd line guys with 90s for speed shouldn't be the guys you'd go to for a cheap goal, instead of a guy with skills but not speed like rick nash.
                max afinogenov is one of the most skilled players in the nhl. he can dangle on the best of the best and make them look silly. unfortunately, he is not one of the smartest players in the nhl. he is a giveaway master, and that is why he is on the third line.
                will not change this until a buffalo team wins a championship.

                - started 11/15/08

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                • catcatch22
                  Or should I
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3378

                  #23
                  Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

                  I haven't had the problem with the CPU dumping in. One thing I didn't like with my sliders was the AI dumped it in at the first sign of trouble in the neutral zone.

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                  • sportmats
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 230

                    #24
                    Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

                    The biggest key will be if the dev team can take away the cheating cheese goals.

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                    • savoie2006
                      R.I.P 2KHockey 2000-2011
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 4657

                      #25
                      Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

                      Originally posted by sportmats
                      The biggest key will be if the dev team can take away the cheating cheese goals.
                      The answer is quite simply NO.Developers would have to make the goalies UNhuman for the cheese goals to cease.What they could do is base ranking and skill,much like the Be A Pro.So if you are a player that uses one or two ways to score all the time,the CPU recognizes this and gives you less skill points for your next ranking.Until something like this happens though,I would just use these and other forums to try and find "sim" players and stick to them.
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                      • kerosene31
                        Some say he...
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 1898

                        #26
                        Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

                        They need to stop being afraid of making a true hockey sim. People will adapt and love a true simulation of the sport.

                        NHL 08 was an arcade game. Yet it was a tough game long with other EA games like Fifa. 08 needed a lot of adjustments by players, and for the most part people do well.

                        A real hockey sim would be less frustrating for most than NHL 08 I would think
                        Go Sabres!

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                        • RealmK
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 4198

                          #27
                          Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

                          Originally posted by kerosene31
                          They need to stop being afraid of making a true hockey sim. People will adapt and love a true simulation of the sport.

                          NHL 08 was an arcade game. Yet it was a tough game long with other EA games like Fifa. 08 needed a lot of adjustments by players, and for the most part people do well.

                          A real hockey sim would be less frustrating for most than NHL 08 I would think
                          holy delusional batman!

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                          • savoie2006
                            R.I.P 2KHockey 2000-2011
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 4657

                            #28
                            Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

                            Originally posted by kerosene31
                            They need to stop being afraid of making a true hockey sim. People will adapt and love a true simulation of the sport.

                            NHL 08 was an arcade game. Yet it was a tough game long with other EA games like Fifa. 08 needed a lot of adjustments by players, and for the most part people do well.

                            A real hockey sim would be less frustrating for most than NHL 08 I would think
                            NHL 08 was arcadish if you play arcade style hockey.For that matter so was 2K8 and so on.The difference between 08 and 2K8 is 08's Cpu AI didn't have 2-3 guys skating around trying to knock the puck handler to the ice.So even if you try to play sim on 2K8,it often still feels arcadish due to the lame AI.
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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #29
                              Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

                              Originally posted by kerosene31
                              They need to stop being afraid of making a true hockey sim. People will adapt and love a true simulation of the sport.

                              NHL 08 was an arcade game. Yet it was a tough game long with other EA games like Fifa. 08 needed a lot of adjustments by players, and for the most part people do well.

                              A real hockey sim would be less frustrating for most than NHL 08 I would think
                              Give me a break, a arcade game? You are joking right. I think you are getting 2k and Ea's game confused. This game was pretty damn accurate if you ask me.

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                              • Splitter77
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 2820

                                #30
                                Re: Keys to Success for NHL 09

                                Originally posted by Scottdau
                                Give me a break, a arcade game? You are joking right. I think you are getting 2k and Ea's game confused. This game was pretty damn accurate if you ask me.
                                the only thing that irked me was the scripted rebounds off the goalies. Hopefully thats fixed foir 09. also the herky jerky defensive controls.

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