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  • Bennyb14
    Rookie
    • Jul 2008
    • 1

    #91
    People who have an issue with the CPU not throwing deep know nothing about modern college offenses. As a former college QB I can tell you that the reason for this "glitch" is that most college QBs don't throw deep unless a guy is ridiculously open. College QBs are not pros and don't have the same arm strength you'll see in Madden, even if the ratings in the game may give them the ability. College offenses are geared towards moving the chains, not going deep 10 times a game. If you watch, pass happy college offenses like Texas Tech and Hawaii may wrack up the yards, but they do it on slants and short crossing routes that use picks by the other recievers to create a big play. Out of the 50 or 60 passes a game Colt Brennan threw last year maybe 3 or 4 were deep balls and most of those were not completed. A short passing game that completes at 70% is far more successful and the CPU is merely taking advantage of this. I you pay attention to the NFL, Tom Brady's most successful years were years where he has thrown alot of short passes mixed with one or two big throws a game. Just because a video gamer who has never played QB in a real game in his life may throw the ball deep 20 times and score 7 touchdowns doesn't mean it's worth dropping your completion percentage to 35% for the 7 TDs, because if your offense fails that much you won't get that chance for 7 tds in one game.

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    • Cebby
      Banned
      • Apr 2005
      • 22327

      #92
      Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

      Originally posted by Bennyb14
      People who have an issue with the CPU not throwing deep know nothing about modern college offenses.
      There's an interesting story about a pot and a kettle. You may want to look it up.

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      • boydra
        Banned
        • Aug 2004
        • 152

        #93
        The review does not recognize that some of animations are still not fluid which is general problem with EA's football games. Also, presentation its a shame that the sideline characters look bad and not lively enough.

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        • xblistoeasy
          Rookie
          • Jul 2008
          • 1

          #94
          playing this game the first time was amazing and i thought it was gunna be the best game ever but i realiized that if you know how to become the reciever and you are fsu online you can just throw it up to greg carr 6"5 reciever and you will pound all the bad kids who dont know how to control a d'back. its a good game but they need to fix that

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          • 867-5309
            Banned
            • Jul 2008
            • 114

            #95
            Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

            Originally posted by wEEman33

            With no competition, and a fan-base that continually rewards EA by purchasing several million copies per year--including tons of people who willingly purchase what they admit to be a mediocre product--EA has no reason to stop charging people full price for their marginal, yearly updates to what has become a sagging, wrinkly football engine that gets prettied up once a year with little more than some shiny makeup and lip gloss.


            I have seen a lot of this thrown out around these parts and it's a bit confusing to me. Competition does not always equate to better games. If I recall we went through a couple generations of consoles where the NCAA License was open to everyone. What games really pushed the Bill Walsh/NCAA series throughout this era? Can someone toss me a list of the quality non-EA NCAA football games?

            The Genesis Sega College games were average at best.
            The early Gamebreakers were tolerable but seem to get progressively worse over the years.
            The Visual Concepts 2K College game? That was a winner.

            Just because you have "competition" does not always mean you get "competition."

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            • Exonerated
              MVP
              • Dec 2007
              • 4899

              #96
              Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

              I see a few cpu deep passes in my game. But thats probably because i play cover 1 and usually cover 0.

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              • bears5122
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 1208

                #97
                Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

                I think the score is real high for the game, but admit it's tough to make a sports review on a game that really hasn't been played a lot. Sports games, especially deep ones, take weeks, even months before bugs and issues are found. It takes times to figure out what plays eventually can exploit the CPU and how. The game has a lot of flaws, but I'm imagining the reviewers probably hadn't seen them yet or heard about them at the time.

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                • OMT
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 2997

                  #98
                  Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

                  I don't know why Ian took a dip in this thread, and I don't know why I am as well. </br></br> That said.. 8.5 is pretty much where this game is falling. If you look at the composite reviews it has gotten... hey, 85 out of 100 on the nose so far. http://www.metacritic.com/search/pro...9&ty=3&x=0&y=0

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                  • OMT
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 2997

                    #99
                    Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

                    Originally posted by erivera7
                    Never in my post did I say you confirmed them as bugs, I said you confirmed them as problems.

                    I didn't make a mindless accusation, I'm going off of what Ian himself said.
                    For the record, we refer to "problems" as bugs. Anytime there is a problem with a game, it is entered into the bug database. I don't want to speak for Ian of course, but we use the term "bug" pretty liberally.

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                    • dave374
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 1928

                      #100
                      Originally posted by Foddzy
                      OK then lets start with some of the negatives:

                      -1 : No CPU deep game
                      -1 : Broken return game
                      -1 : Roster Glitch
                      -.5: talk of "The Patch" even before game release
                      -.1: No chain gang
                      -.1: No refs on field
                      -.1: Bumpfuzzle with mascot (negative only due to previous 2 items)
                      -.1: Gratuitous cheerleader crotch shots (same as above)
                      -1 : No adjustable camera
                      -1 : Placebo sliders
                      -.5: Lack of penalties
                      -1 : Defensive player glitches
                      -.5: Rocket Catch
                      -.5: Drop back 20 yards passers effective online
                      -1 : Other tried and true online cheezefest exploits
                      -1 : "Wide Open Gameplay" euphemisim for lousy defense
                      -1 : Robo CPU QB over the middle/short
                      -? : a lot of other stuff I'm forgetting, most of it present from years past

                      So yeah, the above is of course just my opinion, whatever... even if you start with a PERFECT 10, you've got a big mountain to climb.

                      8.5??? Yeah whatever...

                      Glad you guys are having "fun".
                      Ding, ding, ding!!!
                      We have a winner.

                      This is why no one trusts gaming websites for reviews anymore.

                      Frankly, I think OS should just give up on game reviews and just stick to previews.

                      Thankfully, I only trust forum members ... the guys who play the game and don't count on ad revenue.

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                      • dewdirty
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 11

                        #101
                        Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

                        I withheld judgment and rented this game. Now mind you, I have only been playing 2K5 and 2K8 for the past year, no Madden and very little NCAA 08. This game is actually comical versus the cpu. It is in no way a simulation, other than ther are 22 guy on the field. Explain to me how any of you can play 2K5, 2K8, Last gen Madden or last gen NCAA, and say this game is good? It is a joke. I was bored with it after the first 4 games, when i found that I could just cal l crossing patterns and complete every pass. WTF??? I am glad I rented first, because now I will definitely not buy Madden until after I rent it; and don't tell me about how EA is trying... I am a programmer buy profession and some of the bugs that made it into the release version of this game are pathetic. If I did this with software I develop for the company I work for, I would have been fired a long time ago. While you want testers to use "use cases" and testing plans to test software, it also very important to have someone try and "break" the software you develop so you can find and fix bugs. I seriously doubt EA has done this for the next gen systems. NCAA is no longer a football sim, it is a fun game to play against friends, but horrible to play alone. The fact that I can score touchdowns without ever reading a defense or caring about coverages makes this game closer to blitz than to a sim. I only pray that Madden will be better, but I am not holding my breath. And for the record, I don't blame Ian or his team directly. I think they are victims of unreasonable timelines and the need to out perform on quarterly profits. When we as gamers either stop buying the product or something better forces a change, EA will continue this pay to play the release candidate charade. If you enjoy this game I envy you, because I wish I knew just a little less about football so I could too.
                        The Dolphins will rise again, they can't fall much further.

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                        • Exonerated
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 4899

                          #102
                          Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

                          wow. some pretty harsh reviews here.

                          I guess theres a distinct difference of opinion by the Sim and the Fun crowd.

                          The vocal minority are sure killing ncaa.

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                          • WallaceNails
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 582

                            #103
                            Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

                            I really enjoy playing this game.

                            I like the fact that EA has some developers here that we can interact with on ideas and issues.

                            THEY are here to try and make their product better. If you want a "perfect" game-- the way you like it--then here is your chance to influence EA.

                            Instead, some here are taking this chance to bash the points that need improvement (In their view)

                            You are like the people that refuse to vote in elections, but then bitch all the while about the guy that got elected.

                            Valid and constructive critics are needed to make anything improve. If you just want to just bitch, then you are going to accomplish NOTHING.

                            If you ever want to play a College Football game that is the way you always wanted, then help. You have the EA guys here listening.

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                            • sportyguyfl31
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 4745

                              #104
                              Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

                              Originally posted by WallaceNails
                              If you ever want to play a College Football game that is the way you always wanted, then help. You have the EA guys here listening.

                              ROFL...Yeah, all of our valuable feedback has produced this horse cack product we are currently saddled with.

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                              • sportyguyfl31
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 4745

                                #105
                                Re: NCAA Football 09 (360) Review

                                Originally posted by dewdirty
                                IIf you enjoy this game I envy you, because I wish I knew just a little less about football so I could too.

                                This right here is the best sentence of them all.

                                This game is flat out painful to anyone who truly loves this sport.

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