Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

[Perfect Zero]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

But I pay for it too, the same $60 as you. What if I don't want alot of things changed about the game?

Then you keep paying $60 a year for roster updates and broken features.

[GoVols1985]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

Then you keep paying $60 a year for roster updates and broken features.

Lol, so that's it, we can't compromise?

[Alliball]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

So you openly admit to lying? Over a video game? Get a life man.

To come right out and call people you've never met liars "puts" you in what category exactly? I can think of a couple off the top of my head, but I'll stay away from any warning I might receive.

[bkrich83]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

You know, I love football. I love watching it, playing it, being a part of it. Yet, since the end of 2k5, I've wanted to play it on the console. Playing video game football means a lot to me, but since I only have one choice, I let my voice ring. EA is the only ones making football games now, and they have to know that this game is absolutely terrible when it comes to defense.

See, another beauty about this country is that you aren't the only one with an opinion. I have the right to tell you that you're wrong, and that this game does not play like football. I've played it for roughly five days, and that is enough to tell me that EA didn't care about the game, they just cared about the money in the end. Because of people like you, this trend will not stop.

I love football, and that's why I'm here. I feel the need to tell EA that they don't have a good game on the market, and I'm here to tell others to rent before buying.

And now the agenda becomes clear. Sigh.

You have the right to tell me my opinion is wrong? How can an opinion or personal preference be wrong?

[Perfect Zero]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

You have the right to tell me my opinion is wrong? How can an opinion or personal preference be wrong?

Hate to tell you this bub, but you told me that this is a free country. For the past few posts, you've told me I'm wrong. Now, I'm telling you that you're wrong. This isn't just you man, it's a double sided sword.

[bkrich83]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

If that's not what you want, then I'm here to tell you football ain't your sport.

Who are you to tell someone what sport is their sport and what sport isn't? I guarantee you, I've been around the sport a lot longer and a lot more than you would imagine, and I like the game. My brother is a defensive coordinator at the college level, he loves the game and is playing in an online dynasty with me as well, (as is his QB coach). So please save the "Football isn't your sport if you don't like it" argument. It's inaccurate.

Is it the perfect replication of the sport? Nope. But at this point in my life, that's not what I need. It plays a fun game of football, and I enjoy it. That's all there is to discuss for me.

I do agree with the poster who said it's enjoyable offline and not so much online. That's been my experience as well. Although I just don't play online to much anymore. Don't have the time, and finding a quality opponent is

[carefreedvp]

I have to say that I am thoroughly enjoying this game- they nailed the offensive gameplay in terms of the quick passing- something that never worked on PS2 becuase it took too long to develop. WR screens don't get picked off and flares into the flats and quick hitters to the tight end work nicely. It's great knowing that you can get back in the game when you give up a score. I finished my first season in dynasty with UTEP (I wanted the 1-6 acheivement this year since NM State would be awesome with this offensive engine) and my d isn't great but they make some stops and get TO's- the no pass rush is frustrating, but with the quick releases it's a moot point anyway- like for teams that run the spread in real life. I'm impressed so far and pleasantly surprised.

[bkrich83]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

Hate to tell you this bub, but you told me that this is a free country. For the past few posts, you've told me I'm wrong. Now, I'm telling you that you're wrong. This isn't just you man, it's a double sided sword.

Where did I tell you, you were wrong?

I disputed your claim, of saying anyone who says that they get more than .5 sacks a game, kept the CPU below 65% was a liar. That's it.

[GoVols1985]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

I think we all want differant things from our games, and that's fine. I'm not arguing to prove myself right, I'm trying to get a sense of how the other side thinks about things. It's a mentality I don't share, so it's tough for me to understand.

[dkrause1971]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

Is it really that hard for you guys to think both sides are right?
That someone like my brother who doesn't mess with sliders or rosters think the game is awesome outside the kick returns.

Or someone like me who is lukewarm on the game because of things like the rosters, the returns, the QB AI, the sliders, the weather channel not working, etc.

It all depends what you want out of the game. Some people just want fun, others might want a sim experience, etc.

So can we stop the BS guys? Those bashing the game might be the same guys because some of those things never get changed. Those standing up for the game either gloss over or don't care about the same things.

[bkrich83]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

I think we all want differant things from our games, and that's fine. I'm not arguing to prove myself right, I'm trying to get a sense of how the other side thinks about things. It's a mentality I don't share, so it's tough for me to understand.

Some people strive for their perception of realism. I used to be that way. At this point, I just want it to be fun. For me this game is fun, it's as simple as that. As I have gotten used to playing defense, and how the game engine works the game has gotten more fun for me.

Also there is some 2k5 agenda pushing going on here, but that's par for the course these days. It is what it is.

If you enjoy the game, great. If you don't, that's a bummer, and you certainly have a right to voice your opinion. But some people lose sight of things, and go overboard and start acting like their opinion is the final say.

[GoVols1985]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

Some people strive for their perception of realism. I used to be that way. At this point, I just want it to be fun. For me this game is fun, it's as simple as that. As I have gotten used to playing defense, and how the game engine works the game has gotten more fun for me.

Also there is some 2k5 agenda pushing going on here, but that's par for the course these days. It is what it is.

If you enjoy the game, great. If you don't, that's a bummer, and you certainly have a right to voice your opinion. But some people lose sight of things, and go overboard and start acting like their opinion is the final say.

Exactly. I get my dose of realism every fall when I go down to Neyland Stadium to watch the games. Now, I just want to enjoy myself, and I can do that with this game as it is.

[Perfect Zero]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

And I'm saying that this game is not fun for me because I expect for there to be some sort of gameplay that mimics football. I mean sure, this game has first and ten and a football, but other than that it's a bit sketchy.

Also, I'm not saying that this should be 2k5. I say 2k5 because that was the best football game ever made. Is it perfect? No. Will any game be perfect? No. Yet, the fact of the matter is that this game has too many broken parts to make it fun at all.

I'm sorry you have given up looking for realism and settling for a broken game with roster updates, but I haven't given up that fight. I think we ought to be treated better than what EA has been giving us. There is still a chance in Madden, but it's being pumped up like NCAA was, so I have my doubts.

Never settle for anything bkrich83, or anybody on here. If you do, you get NCAA 09

[bkrich83]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

Exactly. I get my dose of realism every fall when I go down to Neyland Stadium to watch the games. Now, I just want to enjoy myself, and I can do that with this game as it is.

Agreed. And with that being said, the flaws in the game are certainly there. Pass Rush/Pass Pocket, Defenders maintaing leverage in zone coverage, defender reaction in zone coverage when no one is in their zone, the return game, etc.

Despite those probs, I still have fun with it. And that's the bottom line, and if they can fix those probs, that's gravy.

I also think I have gotten better in coverage by utilizing my players to their strengths a bit better in the secondary. The Press, MCV, ZCV attributes seem to play a pretty decent role.

[bkrich83]

Re: Despite Flaws, NCAA 09 a Great Experience

No. Yet, the fact of the matter is that this game has too many broken parts to make it fun at all.

For you, I assume. Which is fine, but for me, I have had a ton of fun.

I'm sorry you have given up looking for realism and settling for a broken game with roster updates, but I haven't given up that fight. I think we ought to be treated better than what EA has been giving us. There is still a chance in Madden, but it's being pumped up like NCAA was, so I have my doubts.

Never settle for anything bkrich83, or anybody on here. If you do, you get NCAA 09

I haven't given up anything, or settled for anything. Either I enjoy a game, and I play it, or I don't and I move on. It's that simple. No need to talk down to people who don't share your view on the game, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.