Madden 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here

[gta95]

Re: Madden 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here

Better than last year, still not good enough for me to purchase. I don't trust Tiburon AT ALL anymore (except for NFL Head Coach, I hope they can't mess it up because it looks excellent as of now). Until we see a new engine (which I doubt they would want to invest the time in putting together because they may have to spend a little *GASP* money), I may not play Madden or NCAA.

[ak1knight]

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I'm hoping the Natural Motion engine in Backbreaker is good enough to turn heads and take away sales from EA... give em a nice little kick in the balls. With the amount of money EA has and their hunger for buying out the competition, they could possibly consider buying out Natural Motion's football engine... maybe this will be their REAL SHAKEUP.

Backbreaker won't sell because it doesn't have the NFL and comes out in like October, the same reason APF sold a fraction of what Madden sold last year (except for the realease date). The whole reason most people buy football games is to play as thier favorite NFL/NCAA team, not just for the love of football.

[Harlemal]

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People are still giving impressions on the demo. And i see its more of the 2k Kool aid drinkers on here. LOL. I Laugh every time i see a comment like that on a Madden Board.

[SkunkWurks6]

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I'm hoping the Natural Motion engine in Backbreaker is good enough to turn heads and take away sales from EA... give em a nice little kick in the balls. With the amount of money EA has and their hunger for buying out the competition, they could possibly consider buying out Natural Motion's football engine... maybe this will be their REAL SHAKEUP.

No way it's gonna happen if APF 2k8 couldn't do it what makes you think back breaker will? I've seen the vids of it and by god it looks terrible. They look like the have body armor on, and lets face it, ficticious players just will never get it done.

[LAKE4742]

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The whole reason most people buy football games is to play as thier favorite NFL/NCAA team, not just for the love of football.

For the love of football over here! For the love of sports! And for the love of gaming! The football, basketball, baseball game that plays the best (the closest to real life) gets my $60. Names and brands mean nothing to me.

[Militant X 1]

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overall..the demo is WEAK in my opinion. i love the graphics...the look and feel of the game...but....you really can't tell to much about it from the demo.

[Blzer]

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you don't play defense in the demo. Its one possession with you on offense trying for the game winning TD.

But if you throw a pick, I can't imagine the demo just ends, right? Or does it? I mean at the least, you can finish the play, yes?

[mrsinister11]

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what the hell is with throws to the sidelines? there are no toe drag animiations? ncaa did this beautifully and madden go's and screws it up.

half the time i throw the ball to the sideline they wouldn't even need a toe drag animation, just a normal catch would do, but the animation they do ends up taking them out of bounds.

nobody else noticed this?

[davin]

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I liked the demo, however there is something that bugs me with the AI IQ thing. The pass defense drill. In situations where there is more than one corner, and I am one of them, and the CPU throws to the OTHER CB and it is completed, how does that measure my skill? How am I supposed to defend against two hook routes on opposite sides of the field? The other CB is in horrible position. That isn't my fault.

[GP Mercy]

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But if you throw a pick, I can't imagine the demo just ends, right? Or does it? I mean at the least, you can finish the play, yes?

It ends when the CB is stopped.

[dregnus]

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Running the ball is ok in this game. I need to do it more, but some peope were raving about it, and I didn't get that vibe yet.

One thing I liked was on the first play, I threw a deep ball to Plax. He simply just got by his man like a real deep ball would work. I saw him run by the DB and make the catch, and it was not a cheesy thing at all..very real to how a deep ball is done in the pros.

I am hoping that the game is tough on all pro so online is a real balanced matchup where cheesers can not control the ball the whole game with rocket catches and drop back QBs.

I have to say that was something that I liked as well. I called a play, probably Strong Overload or something from shotgun, that had plaxico burress out on a streak. I was reading the safeties and saw the SS blitz on the play. I IMMEDIATELY threw a deep lob to plaxico, over his right shoulder, and he came down with it easily. The CB tackled him immediately but it was still a nice 20 yard gain.

I can't remember the last time I saw that. Usually the corner in 1 on 1 will just do a superhuman swat. None of that this time.

Now then, having made my complaints of NCAA quite clear, I am glad that madden feels right to me. The defense plays much, much tighter coverage. Strangely enough, this actually helps me on offense as I can read the defense much more effectively than on NCAA.

I'd say this game holds real promise. I haven't had a chance to play as the defense, and that's where most of my concerns lie but, all in all a good demo.

[ak1knight]

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I liked the demo, however there is something that bugs me with the AI IQ thing. The pass defense drill. In situations where there is more than one corner, and I am one of them, and the CPU throws to the OTHER CB and it is completed, how does that measure my skill? How am I supposed to defend against two hook routes on opposite sides of the field? The other CB is in horrible position. That isn't my fault.

You can switch between corners

For the love of football over here! For the love of sports! And for the love of gaming! The football, basketball, baseball game that plays the best (the closest to real life) gets my $60. Names and brands mean nothing to me.

Sadly, I think your in the bottom 10% when it comes to the big picture (where you include casuals, where EA, and most every other developer/publisher makes over 90% of their money) and casuals don't care about "real-time physics" or "adaptive AI," most people I know who like football think Madden is a decent enough game and it has the NFL...

[davin]

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You can switch between corners

That doesn't matter if the CPU corner put himself terribly out of position making any play impossible. In man coverage with two corners and 2 WRs on a hook route, you have to get in front of him in the demo to make the play. I can position myself in front of one guy, but I can't do it for both guys in the 3 seconds I have.

[ak1knight]

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That doesn't matter if the CPU corner put himself terribly out of position making any play impossible. In man coverage with two corners and 2 WRs on a hook route, you have to get in front of him in the demo to make the play. I can position myself in front of one guy, but I can't do it for both guys in the 3 seconds I have.

true, I guess you could pass rush then.

[mrsinister11]

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I liked the demo, however there is something that bugs me with the AI IQ thing. The pass defense drill. In situations where there is more than one corner, and I am one of them, and the CPU throws to the OTHER CB and it is completed, how does that measure my skill? How am I supposed to defend against two hook routes on opposite sides of the field? The other CB is in horrible position. That isn't my fault.

sorry dude but if you think pressing buttons when they appear on screen as a running back measures your running skill in the game, well you'd be mistaken.

the whole madden i.q. thing is 1) a terrible idea to begin with and 2) not even implemented well


i mean come on if you get a good score on the passing portion all that means is your reciever drop wide open balls, just set the diffuculty level and sliders (or lacktherof) yourself.

you would actually trust ea sports ability to give you the right artificial intelligence after taking that god awful tron test?