agree 100%. I am one of the weirdos that actually like this game. But everytime I go on this forum, I feel like I am the only one who likes the worst game ever made. I am sitting here trying to figure out why I am enjoying this game so much while its obvious that everyone here hates it. I just don't get it. But maybe its because of all the things you just mentioned....because that is pretty much me. ....maybe its because I haven't played madden 09 yet so I have no clue what a good football game is, maybe its because i am getting a little bit older and just don't care too much about pursuit angles and robo QBs as much as i used to and just have learned to have fun with this video game.....I guess I am not as "hardcore" as I used to be? I don't know what it is, but all I know is that I absolutely love NCAA 09 and I do recognize its flaws.....I do hope that the 2nd patch makes a noticeable difference in the gameplay, but I am still having fun with the game as is....