2008 Chicago Bears Den

[edubbz708]

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And going back to my stick my neck out prediction, I think this is Daniel Manning's last game. Actually could lose two Mannings this week.

I doubt it. Who else will play the nickle?

Also, Kevin Jones looked good. Him and Forte should be an upgrade over what we had last season.

[Jistic]

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They've been putting Kevin Payne in on nicked with the first unit lately so I dont' think Manning is slotted there. However with his big return night he may have saved his job.

I'll be the first one to champion the cause of Kyle Orton if he can play that well in the regular season. He had a solid night, especially the first TD pass. And yes Threeking he did have all night to throw.

I just can't take much from that game though. Both defenses looked like they were playing at about half speed. JT O Sullivan looked like Joe Montana back there. The defenses definitely didn't take the game as seriously as Seattle did.

I'm just ready for preseason to be over with. All these glorified practices are such a waste. We're almost there!

[wwharton]

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Nevermind. I read it wrong.

You wanna talk about him going back into the endzone and getting clipped for a safety instead? lol

Signing him to that big contract was a big mistake and I'll be one of many saying I told you so all year my friend. Something else I've said is as good as Hester is, the other 10 guys on the field have to be pretty good too to produce like he has. I think the other guys they're putting out there showed that too... when they held onto the ball. Overall, I think him trying to become a WR will hurt his return game and they can't afford to not make him a WR with the money he's getting... and I don't see him being a good one... haven't seen anything to prove me wrong.

[Jistic]

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You don't like Hester. We get it. You couldn't be any more clear after a multitude of posts saying the same thing.

[bluengold34_OS]

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You don't like Hester. We get it. You couldn't be any more clear after a multitude of posts saying the same thing.

Can I tell you about how I don't like Hester?? :wink::wink:

[wwharton]

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You don't like Hester. We get it. You couldn't be any more clear after a multitude of posts saying the same thing.

all of my posts about Hester were in a thread about Hester in response to other posts... what you gotta say about 3Kings who pops his head up whenever anyone says anything against him? Be fair.

By the way, I actually have absolutely nothing against Hester and wish him well. He's already the greatest returner in history. My comment only came out for the ying (3kings) to my yang.

[Jistic]

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C'mon, you know you gotta take everything 3kings says with a grain of salt.

[wwharton]

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of course... but gotta throw some jabs back every now and then

[Bears_16_and_0]

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this is the first time since 2000, that I am actually not optomistic at all going into a Bears season. In 2000 I was only like 16 or 17 too, so that was pretty much when I began to follow the bears close enough to make predictions about the team.

[Football_guru91]

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A few things:

1) This is what we're going to get when you put Rex at QB. Teams will stack the box and blitz the **** out of him. Which will cause him to do squat.

2) Our offensive line might be worse than last year.

3) You cannot put Devin Hester at wide receiver. He is just not a wideout. He is a home run hitting kick returner. PERIOD. I don't care how much money they paid him. Lovie is going to get him killed.

4) Speaking of Lovie.....he is a ****ing idiot.

5) Orton looks a lot better than Rex.

6) Ron Turner needs to get his head out of his ***. I swear, if he calls one more play up the gut like we have the '92 Cowboys offensive line, I might choke somebody.

7) I feel bad for the defense this year. AGAIN.

First off.... As for your rant about Devin Hester being a wide out... all I have to say to you is Steve Smith. Lovie Smith is pure genius as a head coach, his fault lies in the fact the 1. Jerry Angelo has to have his say on everything and 2. that Ron Turner is the OC. As for the line, they're young and they're missing our first round draft pick. Fred Miller was a POS player who had to be helped 80% of the time last year. Ruban Brown was way past his playing day. (hence why neither are on other teams) Chris Williams is a blocking machine and when he's healthy the left side of the line will get a huge pick up, moving St. Clair to guard (from playing tackle all year) will be a huge plus. O lines don't get good over night.

[Football_guru91]

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My own opinion but this is who I believe will be starting for the Bears this year.

QB- Orton
RB1- Forte
RB2- Jones
FB- McKie
WR1- Davis
WR2- Hester
WR3- Booker
WR4- Lloyd
WR5- Bennett
TE1- Olson
TE2- Clark
LT- St. Clair
RG- Beekman
C- Kreutz
RG- Garza
RT- Tait

DE1-A. Brown
DE2- Anderson
DT1- Harris
DT2- Dvoracek
DT3- Adams
DE- Ogunleye
RL- Briggs
ML- Urlacher
LL- Hillenmeyer
CB1- Vasher
CB2- Tillman
CB3- Graham
CB4- McBride
SS1- McGowan
SS2- Payne
FS1- M. Brown
FS2- D. Manning

K- Gould
P- Maynard
KR- D. Manning
PR- Bennett


Who "big" we could see getting cut:
Wolfe, R. Manning, Gattis, Hass, Hanie, Bradley, Bazuin, Okow, Mines, Monk, Pope, Toeaina. As well as a bunch of no bodys.

What do y'all think?

[ThreeKing]

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You wanna talk about him going back into the endzone and getting clipped for a safety instead? lol

Signing him to that big contract was a big mistake and I'll be one of many saying I told you so all year my friend. Something else I've said is as good as Hester is, the other 10 guys on the field have to be pretty good too to produce like he has. I think the other guys they're putting out there showed that too... when they held onto the ball. Overall, I think him trying to become a WR will hurt his return game and they can't afford to not make him a WR with the money he's getting... and I don't see him being a good one... haven't seen anything to prove me wrong.

I believe that it was called for a touchback and not a safety.


I still don't get why people can't understand the foundation for his contract. From not just a football perspective, but from a marketing and economical standpoint, it makes all the sense in the world. I know how Bears fans can get. If Angelo doesn't have Hester in a Bears uniform, fans will go postal. Period.

Whether or not his contract is too much, is basically irrelevant to us.

I personally would rather overpay our best offensive weapon right now and have him on our squad, than have him balling for another team because we the Bears usually like to be frugal with their dollars.

And LOL @ Jistic. Grain of salt huh? Just throw a fellow Bears fan under the bus. Thanks man. I know you would rather take Hester's money and give it to Grossman.

[wwharton]

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First off.... As for your rant about Devin Hester being a wide out... all I have to say to you is Steve Smith. Lovie Smith is pure genius as a head coach, his fault lies in the fact the 1. Jerry Angelo has to have his say on everything and 2. that Ron Turner is the OC. As for the line, they're young and they're missing our first round draft pick. Fred Miller was a POS player who had to be helped 80% of the time last year. Ruban Brown was way past his playing day. (hence why neither are on other teams) Chris Williams is a blocking machine and when he's healthy the left side of the line will get a huge pick up, moving St. Clair to guard (from playing tackle all year) will be a huge plus. O lines don't get good over night.

If you think Hester is Steve Smith you're seriously dreaming. They drafted him as a returner and have been just trying to find a position for him ever since. Remember he started as a DB? Not to mention it's not like we haven't seen him play. He looks like Steve Smith to you on the field?

3kings, that's just not how you get a winning football team my friend.

[Altimus]

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Didn't watch the game but looking at the stat line Orton put on a very solid performance?

[Bighoff]

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Who "big" we could see getting cut:
Wolfe, R. Manning, Gattis, Hass, Hanie, Bradley, Bazuin, Okow, Mines, Monk, Pope, Toeaina. As well as a bunch of no bodys.

What do y'all think?

I think Hanie played well enough to earn a roster spot or at least a practice squad spot, he could develop into at quality backup. As much as I don't want to see Bazuin and Bradley cut cause that's just more wasted draft picks, I think they will both be gone. Though maybe Bradley will be given one last year to prove he's worth keeping around.