Madden NFL 09 vs. NCAA Football 09: Battle Royal

[Keith121212]

Is this is a joke article? How does NCAA win against Madden in the gameplay department? How does NCAA FB '09 win in anything compared to Madden outside of atmosphere?

[deebo2246]

I must add that NFL HC is the way to go this year, but Madden and NCAA are improving in the right direction????

[XCalmLikeABombX]

Re: Madden NFL 09 vs. NCAA Football 09: Battle Royal

Is this is a joke article? How does NCAA win against Madden in the gameplay department? How does NCAA FB '09 win in anything compared to Madden outside of atmosphere?

First question, have you played NCAA 09 with Patch #2. It without a doubt has better gameplay at this point than Madden 09.

Small list:
CPU has a running game.
The players do not catch passes out of bounds, and run out of bounds in wide open field.
No ROBO QB where the qb is hitting 95% completion ratio and are second string.
No freezing at all.
No WR online cheese glitch.
Not only has cpu sliders, (which Madden does not) they actually work.

Just a few reasons why NCAA is superior right now. It will be interesting when Madden finally gets patch 02. There is a lot to correct. I do hope the Madden patch does fix a lot of the glitches/problems. I recently returned my Madden09 and switched it for NCAA09 after hearing about how well the second patch did for NCAA.

[scamden311]

I think both games have improved.

I ended up buying NCAA after renting both. It was the dynasty features of NCAA that convinced me to buy it.

Madden was much better than i expected, but there was just no atmosphere and the franchise was so boring that I couldn't envision the game having much lasting appeal.

I am really enjoying NCAA post patch. Its the best NCAA since 07 on Xbox.

[rckabillyRaider]

Re: Madden NFL 09 vs. NCAA Football 09: Battle Royal

First question, have you played NCAA 09 with Patch #2. It without a doubt has better gameplay at this point than Madden 09.

Small list:
CPU has a running game.
The players do not catch passes out of bounds, and run out of bounds in wide open field.
No ROBO QB where the qb is hitting 95% completion ratio and are second string.
No freezing at all.
No WR online cheese glitch.
Not only has cpu sliders, (which Madden does not) they actually work.

Just a few reasons why NCAA is superior right now. It will be interesting when Madden finally gets patch 02. There is a lot to correct. I do hope the Madden patch does fix a lot of the glitches/problems. I recently returned my Madden09 and switched it for NCAA09 after hearing about how well the second patch did for NCAA.

+100000

[Smokez4DAyz]

The Power of the NFL, its not about the game title, who wants to use Tulane, when they can use Tavaris Jackson and Adrian Peterson? Gimmie a break with NCAA, is a cash filler for EA, they slip the mediocre title in just before Madden drops and we go buy it. I tried to play Ncaa last night, and put my madden right back in. Sorry only on saturdays for my NCAA. Its not the better game, and that extra burst of speed you speak of is when lesser rated teams play the big boys. People always trying to make the dark horse the champ, I've been hearing this nonsense of NCAA being better than Madden, give people a choice and do the opposite just to do it. Since Bill Walsh Football so I know what I speak of, Make mines Madden

[noplace]

Re: Madden NFL 09 vs. NCAA Football 09: Battle Royal

NCAA....Madden is a snore fest! Although I think the gameplay on Madden does somethings a little better, its really not enough to put over the top or make a big difference. The only thing I like in Madden over NCAA are the pre-snap movements seem more fluid & the weather effects. Other than that Madden is a bore beyond belief! I cant play it with out yawning thru the entire game....

[dopeboy206]

Re: Madden NFL 09 vs. NCAA Football 09: Battle Royal

Gameplay: Madden (NCAA was way too easy and Madden is a little bit more sim but not by much)

Features: NCAA (Both had similar features but I give the edge to NCAA because you can add photos to EASW not just highlights so I choose NCAA by a small margin.)

Presentation: Tie (They both suck)

Online: NCAA (Too many cheesers online doing that wr direct snap on Madden plus NCAA has an online dynasty that blows Madden out the water in my opinion. Madden should of added an online franchise feature. Plus Madden leagues doesn't have real schedules and we only get to play 11 regular season games max)

Graphics: Madden (By a small margin due to the field degration)

Sounds: NCAA (Stadium sound for NCAA is a neat feature)

Winner: NCAA (I think NCAA is a little better but not by much. I have both games and I think they are two very good sports games but I just spend more time on NCAA mainly because of Online Dynasy.)

[sportyguyfl31]

Both games are flawed in entirely different ways.

On the field, NCAA is fundamentally broken.

There are a wide array of running plays that the cpu simply cannot execute without maximizing run block sliders and RB ability sliders.

CPU QB logic is horrid, and the defensive programming is hideous.

Spot on game day environment though, and online dynasty literally saves the game.

Madden on the field is better, online head to head play is "better"..but the atmosphere, and imersion factor is non existant, online leagues arent worth the time of day, and the franchise mode is a bore.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

its a hard choice cause they both have thier pros and cons. I agree with alot of what is being said here. man if I had to make a choice. I would choose NCAA.

[dkrause1971]

Re: Madden NFL 09 vs. NCAA Football 09: Battle Royal

First question, have you played NCAA 09 with Patch #2. It without a doubt has better gameplay at this point than Madden 09.

Small list:
CPU has a running game.
The players do not catch passes out of bounds, and run out of bounds in wide open field.
No ROBO QB where the qb is hitting 95% completion ratio and are second string.
No freezing at all.
No WR online cheese glitch.
Not only has cpu sliders, (which Madden does not) they actually work.

Just a few reasons why NCAA is superior right now. It will be interesting when Madden finally gets patch 02. There is a lot to correct. I do hope the Madden patch does fix a lot of the glitches/problems. I recently returned my Madden09 and switched it for NCAA09 after hearing about how well the second patch did for NCAA.

Using the dummy sliders on Madden- I would thrown out the roto QB and say- you actually have more sliders than NCAA. Its a pain to do the dummy sliders and its silly we have too but the QB is much more human with them. Typically low 60s.

The Run games are pretty similiar with the dummy sliders. If anything NCAA is worse because you get so many of the stupid QB runs.

Freezing and online glitches i don't know about so i cannot say.

I see players in both games catch balls and still see some odds catches and then running out of bounds on both so i cannot really back one or the other.

To the general points- i also didn't see how NCAA won the gameplay catergory but maybe its all due to the dummy slider thing.

NCAA clearly wins the presenation and replay values in my mind however. I play Madden more but i can see why some prefer NCAA. When i find a dynasty to play in- i might go that route myself.

[XCalmLikeABombX]

I am confused about some of the responses about NCAA and Madden09.

NCAA w/patch 2 is getting a great response in the community, and I have seen very positive feedback about the patch. I am sure when Madden 09 gets the second patch, we will see some positive feedback as well. I am just confused about how people can compare madden's gameplay to NCAA's at this very moment and not see that Madden09 has some huge glitches that take away from the gameplay.

Again, another small additional list.

Madden 09
The AI in pressure situations is absolutely broken. When I had the game I had CPU teams down by less than a touchdown, and they were on my side of the field with less than a minute left and they would punt on 4th down. I had teams score, and be in a postion to win if they did an onside kick, and they would just kick it deep.

Once again, the CPU running game is just inept. The passing game is unreal with the robo qb. (I know there is a dummy slider to change this, but I am talking about the game head to head. The dummy slider still didn't take away the ball being thrown out of bounds 6-7 times a game. I mean way out of bounds by CPU. You just don't feel any intensity from the crowds in Madden09 either.

Just out of curosity, what do others think about NCAA after Patch 2? I am really enjoying it, and just feel like I have much more control over the actual gameplay than in Madden 09. Also, what things do you still see in NCAA that was not fixed in Patch 2?

[XCalmLikeABombX]

In response to above post concerning the running games being about the same, with NCAA qbs running poorly. Was that before the second patch, because I am not seeing that all in the games I am playing in NCAA09?

[ab2c4]

My vote goes easily to Madden. It is absurd to say NCAA has better gameplay this year. Trust me, I have been a die hard NCAA gamer since 1993 and prefer it over Madden but the gameplay in this year's version of NCAA is terrible even after patch #2.

[XCalmLikeABombX]

My vote goes easily to Madden. It is absurd to say NCAA has better gameplay this year. Trust me, I have been a die hard NCAA gamer since 1993 and prefer it over Madden but the gameplay in this year's version of NCAA is terrible even after patch #2.

Ab2, are you not seeing all the glitches everyone is reporting from Madden 09. Are you not experiencing the lack of AI in pressure/4qtr situations? I am not trying to start a negative debate here. I am just confused. All I see all over EA boards and on OS are freezing glitches, issues with robo qb, passes being thrown out of bounds, etc etc.

What is it about Madden 09 that you like, if you don't mind me asking. I am not saying it is all bad, but do you think its a complete football game. What do you not like about NCAA after patch 2?