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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #61
    Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

    Originally posted by videobastard
    Im basing my purchase off of what i see from 2k in videos and when i get to play their demo. Im not speaking for anyone else but myself. I dont want to play the same old engine were you can defy physics.
    If that's the case, are you not going to play any basketball game at all this year?

    All three games have their oddities... I don't see why it seems like 2k is being held to a higher standard, IMO.
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    • Bornindamecca
      Books Nelson Simnation
      • Jul 2007
      • 10919

      #62
      Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

      Originally posted by Pared
      If that's the case, are you not going to play any basketball game at all this year?

      All three games have their oddities... I don't see why it seems like 2k is being held to a higher standard, IMO.
      I actually agree with what he's saying. If 2k put out a bad game, I'd just do manual roster updates, like many NFL fans were forced to do for a few years after NFL 2k5. Even if the game wasn't "bad", but there was a problem that I just needed fixed(like turbo blocks in past years), I'd skip the new game if the problem wasn't remedied.

      With the addition of 5 on 5, I'm pretty much guaranteed to get it this year, but there is still the possibility that the game has a broken feature that needs to be patched. If that were the case, I'd wait and buy other games I plan to get this fall.

      If 2k is held to a higher standard, it's because it has been the highest standard in bball gaming. That's just natural. The smart kid is expected to get better grades.
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      • DC
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2002
        • 17996

        #63
        Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

        Originally posted by aholbert32
        Never had an issue with easy dunks in traffic. Using the sliders did a great job in fix issues like that.
        But there were no slider adjustments that could prevent Anderson Varejoa from dunking on a whole front line because the game doesn't recognize defense when defending standing dunks (2K8)
        Concrete evidence/videos please

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        • Bornindamecca
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          • Jul 2007
          • 10919

          #64
          Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

          Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
          But there were no slider adjustments that could prevent Anderson Varejoa from dunking on a whole front line because the game doesn't recognize defense when defending standing dunks (2K8)
          I do hate that. It makes certain offensive rebounding situations a guaranteed bucket. Should be a foul situation most of the time. We should also have a quick Mikan drill type animation to beat the defense with after a rebound. Drawback should be that it's an easy block.
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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #65
            Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

            Originally posted by Bornindamecca
            If 2k is held to a higher standard, it's because it has been the highest standard in bball gaming. That's just natural.
            And people are willing to jump ship to a less developed product because of it.

            Call me crazy, but I don't see how that's natural. Call it what you will. It's borderline unfair as I see a double standard that continues to echo throughout the forum.

            2k is out to please the purists but they've proven time and time again they're a fickle bunch who aren't easy to please. Other companies are trying to please everyone and winning fans in the process.

            It's pretty ironic if you take a step back and look at the big picture.
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            • NINJAK2
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              • Jan 2003
              • 6185

              #66
              Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

              Originally posted by Pared
              If that's the case, are you not going to play any basketball game at all this year?

              All three games have their oddities... I don't see why it seems like 2k is being held to a higher standard, IMO.

              2K has always been held to a higher standard around here Pared. 2k has to be the perfect sim and Live only has to improve on their previous effort to get some props.

              What did you mean by your previous post when you said waaaaaaaaaalllk and the phrase it's coming? Will there be traveling in 2k9 other than traveling committed by not releasing the ball on a shot attempt? Am I just off base with my post?
              Last edited by NINJAK2; 09-08-2008, 03:05 PM.
              EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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              • videobastard
                MVP
                • Aug 2004
                • 3388

                #67
                Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

                Originally posted by Pared
                If that's the case, are you not going to play any basketball game at all this year?

                All three games have their oddities... I don't see why it seems like 2k is being held to a higher standard, IMO.
                I ended up trading my nba 2k8 because of the nagging issues. The live series we all know needed a lot of work...so we know whats going on there they are playing catch up. But with the 2k series we have known them to have the better product. With NBA being their main sports game with football gone im just expecting more from 2k man. Im hoping the final build will be a gem. I will play the games regardless but instead of a purchase it could be a rental depending on how the gameplay is.

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                • Bornindamecca
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                  • Jul 2007
                  • 10919

                  #68
                  Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

                  Originally posted by Pared
                  And people are willing to jump ship to a less developed product because of it.

                  Call me crazy, but I don't see how that's natural. Call it what you will. It's borderline unfair as I see a double standard that continues to echo throughout the forum.

                  2k is out to please the purists but they've proven time and time again they're a fickle bunch who aren't easy to please. Other companies are trying to please everyone and winning fans in the process.
                  I think that bit about jumping ship is all talk. I don't personally know anyone who purchased NBA Live and didn't purchase 2k. Regardless, I'm not talking about people who are saying they'll get Live instead of 2k. I'm saying it's natural to expect Live to be between a 6 and 7.5, and to expect 2k to be between an 8 and a 10. From there, it's natural to discuss the two games within that context.

                  I'm not talking about buying a mediocre game instead of a great game. That's ridiculous to me. The logic is that "I'd rather have something new than the same old thing with the same old problems". In a very small way, I kind of understand, because if you feel that the sequel is still the same you can just pop in last year's game whenever you want the feeling of that franchise.

                  Originally posted by Pared

                  It's pretty ironic if you take a step back and look at the big picture.
                  I could be wrong, but I think 2k has actually been gaining ground the last couple of years. That whole "best reviewed basketball game" bit seems to be working out for them. Most people I meet seem to know that it's the better game. I remember when most people only knew about Live.
                  Last edited by Bornindamecca; 09-08-2008, 03:07 PM.
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                  • DC
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 17996

                    #69
                    Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

                    Pared all people are asking for is a SIM Lobby. I don't think that is much to ask for. With preset NON-DEFAULT sliders that is targerted for sim play. Simple request.
                    Concrete evidence/videos please

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                    • Rebel_INS
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                      • Sep 2006
                      • 970

                      #70
                      Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

                      U know what!? And I don't mean this 2 be offensive...just real...

                      U guys are spoiled brats!


                      IT'S A DAMN VIDEO GAME 4 CHRIST'S SAKE!!!

                      It's the best one out and ya'll want it 2 be so realistic that it saps all the fun out of the game!

                      Maybe I'm more appreciative cause I know what it is 2 play Double Dribble and can acknowledge the huge strides made and still being made in sports titles.

                      A lot of u guys need 2 chill out...seriously
                      Last edited by Rebel_INS; 09-08-2008, 03:14 PM.
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                      • DC
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                        • Oct 2002
                        • 17996

                        #71
                        Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

                        What makes you think a game being very realistic isn't fun to US?

                        It isn't "sapping" the fun out of it for us by ANY stretch.

                        It didn't know there was a sliding scale; Realism vs Fun
                        Concrete evidence/videos please

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                        • Bornindamecca
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                          • Jul 2007
                          • 10919

                          #72
                          Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

                          Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                          What makes you think a game being very realistic isn't fun to US?

                          It isn't "sapping" the fun out of it for us by ANY stretch.

                          It didn't know there was a sliding scale; Realism vs Fun
                          Yeah, I thought this was about loving the organized game of basketball. There is nothing wrong with trying to get closer to the real life game. For me at least, the ideal is to have real life knowledge of bball translate directly to video game success. Same way Rock Band is easier for real drummers and singers.
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                          • Rebel_INS
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 970

                            #73
                            Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

                            Whateva man...it was an open statement from me just calling it how I see it...not trying 2 debate it...

                            Just saying...reading this board @ times it seems like listening 2 a knitting group of women all on their periods

                            Don't take that personal...like I said, just calling it how I see it...

                            Dudes really need 2 learn how 2 be easy...

                            I don't stress sh*t I can't control but hey...that's just my philosophy...

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                            Originally posted by Mighty Mos
                            My restlessness is my nemesis, it's hard 2 really chill and sit still
                            Committed 2 page, I write a rhyme, sometimes won't finish 4 days
                            Scrutinize my literature from the large 2 the miniature
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                            • bizcanos
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1241

                              #74
                              Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

                              It's a trailer. Ok for what it was. Not changing my opnion at all.

                              These kind of dunks have been in 2K since I can remember and all of a sudden it's a problem and this game is not sim. I have to question if people who post here really have been playing this game over the years. It seems so many talk about this like it's something new to the series.

                              2 years ago Live was unplayable while 2k has gotten better each version. So if you want to switch games because Rose’s hands don’t touch the rim or he dunks over Wallace then go ahead. Jump on the bandwagon.

                              Does a company’s track record mean anything here? 2k deserves more respect. Dissing a game from a trailer, I guess.

                              Trailer are just that trailers. Gameplay is what matters most and 2k has been the better game the past few years. This year it looks like it will be a good battle between 2k and Live. Let the gameplay speak not a trailer.
                              Last edited by bizcanos; 09-08-2008, 03:40 PM.

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                              • Pared
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #75
                                Re: Teaser 4 is up!!!!

                                Originally posted by NINJAK2
                                2K has always been held to a higher standard around here Pared. 2k has to be the perfect sim and Live only has to improve on their previous effort to get some props.

                                What did you mean by your previous post when you said waaaaaaaaaalllk and the phrase it's coming? Will there be traveling in 2k9 other than traveling committed by not releasing the ball on a shot attempt? Am I just off base with my post?
                                I mean Rose traveled in the trailer. Just a joke...
                                Originally posted by videobastard
                                I ended up trading my nba 2k8 because of the nagging issues. The live series we all know needed a lot of work...so we know whats going on there they are playing catch up. But with the 2k series we have known them to have the better product. With NBA being their main sports game with football gone im just expecting more from 2k man. Im hoping the final build will be a gem. I will play the games regardless but instead of a purchase it could be a rental depending on how the gameplay is.
                                I'm glad you're not taking offense to my comment b/c I just want to understand where you're coming from.

                                Compared to everything that's out there, if 2k9 is still the better game would you seriously jump ship if the things you're expecting to be fixed aren't? Even if it is the better game overall?

                                Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                                In a very small way, I kind of understand, because if you feel that the sequel is still the same you can just pop in last year's game whenever you want the feeling of that franchise.
                                Ok, I can understand that.

                                Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                                I could be wrong, but I think 2k has actually been gaining ground the last couple of years. That whole "best reviewed basketball game" bit seems to be working out for them. Most people I meet seem to know that it's the better game. I remember when most people only knew about Live.
                                They have but the talk is every year "If 2k didn't fix so and so, I'm not going to buy it" by some people... I just never understood the mindset. Last year it was the armbands. Not trying to trivialize it, just explain my point.

                                Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                                Pared all people are asking for is a SIM Lobby. I don't think that is much to ask for. With preset NON-DEFAULT sliders that is targerted for sim play. Simple request.
                                But that's just it... you'll feel the lobby isn't sim enough... others won't agree... I don't think they can win even if they do that. Then it's "there aren't enough fouls."

                                Originally posted by Rebel_INS
                                U know what!? And I don't mean this 2 be offensive...just real...

                                U guys are spoiled brats!


                                IT'S A DAMN VIDEO GAME 4 CHRIST'S SAKE!!!

                                It's the best one out and ya'll want it 2 be so realistic that it saps all the fun out of the game!

                                Maybe I'm more appreciative cause I know what it is 2 play Double Dribble and can acknowledge the huge strides made and still being made in sports titles.

                                A lot of u guys need 2 chill out...seriously
                                I sometimes wonder this as well. Maybe I'm just getting old?

                                Sorry for the long post.. makes more sense than replying 5 different times.
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