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  • mdbussen
    Rookie
    • Jan 2005
    • 142

    #121
    Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

    Originally posted by BrianFifaFan
    Great impressions. Especially from a PES-lover. :wink: You should read the info on Fifa Soccer Blog. Suffwan, who went with Therizing up to EA Canada played the latest preview today or yesterday. He said the game is even better than the demo and Lepzig builds. Improved graphics and even more responsiveness.
    Yeah I've been reading that blog along with their WE blog. Good stuff

    Originally posted by BrianFifaFan
    We'll be seeing you on the Fifa Boards a lot more I hope?
    Let's not go too far now!!!

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    • BrianFifaFan
      Semi-retired
      • Oct 2003
      • 4137

      #122
      Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

      Originally posted by mdbussen
      Yeah I've been reading that blog along with their WE blog. Good stuff



      Let's not go too far now!!!
      Cynic! LOL
      Note to Tiburon Marketing:

      A great product sells itself, no "back of the box" features required! (See Fifa...)

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      • thekavorka
        Rookie
        • Aug 2008
        • 10

        #123
        Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

        Originally posted by callmetaternuts
        Since i have zero access to a 360 for a few days, how is it compared to every other EA soccer title with the suction passing, or not letting you take control and run into open area or run onto passes? I played UEFA 08 a good bit and had a hard time with a few things

        1) When a pass would be coming to me, it would lock me into an animation series that you cant ge tout of and cant run onto the ball or attack it
        2) The CPU doing ridiculous clears that happen to land at the feet of one of their attackers
        3) Not being able to win a freaking header
        4) Double teaming a CPU striker in the box with him still winning the header

        Any thoughts on these with FIFA?
        1) In Euro, did you try canceling (LT + RT on 360)?

        2) This is still a problem for me. This is one of my biggest gripes with Euro and the Fifa 09 demo. But they did lessen it. You'll see the AI clear more out of bounds.

        3) Did you try "jostling"? I believe it was "hold LT when the ball is in the air" to get a better position for the header and sort of box out the other guy. I think they failed to mention that in the Euro manual.

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        • devilsjaw
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 3572

          #124
          Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

          Finally got around to playing this, and it's pretty damn sweet! LOVE the atmosphere in the stadium, and during penalty shootouts, but what's with the cpu GK? He never dove to attempt to block any of my PK's!?!?!

          Anyway, the passing is much more fluid this year, and unpredictable, and I'm loving the way players go up for headers now. Feels very realstic. I even had Lampard whiff on a volley! Never seen that before in past FIFA's.

          One small bad thing, it stilll seems that too many cards are given out on fouls, at least to me. I hope this is toned down a little in the final version. All in all, very impressed so far!

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          • Bahnzo
            Can't spell antetokounmpo
            • Jun 2003
            • 2809

            #125
            Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

            Originally posted by BrianFifaFan
            so thatwas my experience. How many goals have you scored Bahnzo?
            I have no idea, maybe 5-6 in the games I've played. Enough to play with the celebrations! But I've only given up two goals...both to Toronto FC, and both blasts from outside the box...spectacular goals both of them. Which is another thing.....I've noticed that with the right player you can scream some long range goals much easier this year.
            Steam: Bahnzo

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            • Bahnzo
              Can't spell antetokounmpo
              • Jun 2003
              • 2809

              #126
              Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

              Originally posted by BrianFifaFan
              I don't mind the passing in manual on the demo. The whole game this year just feels more "free." I actually like that passes are less perfect this year. It'll make it more back and forth, more realistic.
              BTW you guys do know you can change the passing, etc in the demo also right? I've been playing with manual passing, but it's much more sensitive this year, I'm guessing due to the overall improved controls.
              Steam: Bahnzo

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              • spartansocc12
                Rookie
                • Aug 2002
                • 238

                #127
                Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                Is it just more is it very difficult to go back and play FIFA 08 after playing the demo. I just cannot get myself back into it. I have EURO and PES and all I keep doing is going back to the demo, which is VERY frustrating since its only 2 min halves. I kind of wish I had not played it...

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                • emc12
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 42

                  #128
                  Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by Bahnzo
                  BTW you guys do know you can change the passing, etc in the demo also right? I've been playing with manual passing, but it's much more sensitive this year, I'm guessing due to the overall improved controls.
                  yea its way to sensitive i hope they sort it out on the retail version

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                  • Bamtino
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 372

                    #129
                    Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                    Just got around to trying out the demo...

                    The graphics are the best i have ever seen in a soccer game...I also love the atmosphere and that little mini game with Ronaldinho...I was playing on PS3 and the framerate is rock solid which is a plus for me...The controls are a little clunky for my tastes but after you get used to it its no big deal...I like the flow of the game, it feels like a soccer sim...The ref gives out plenty of cards on bad sliding tackles but outside of that foul calls aren't too frequent...Passing is also fluent and the goalies are challenging...

                    That said the gameplay in this demo overall felt pretty sloppy...Ball control and dribbling seems to be way too loose and i was getting a little delay when passing...Also why does the AI play so loose? My guys NEVER intercept a pass and are constantly just letting the opposition blow right passed them...I haven't played FIFA since the SNES days so i could be doing something wrong...Either way I hope there is a slider so we can adjust the AI's aggressiveness...

                    Overall i was impressed but not as much as i thought i would be...Hopefully the official release is more polished...
                    Last edited by Bamtino; 09-12-2008, 09:03 PM.

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                    • Krebstar
                      is looking at stats.
                      • May 2005
                      • 12907

                      #130
                      Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by Bamtino
                      Just got around to trying out the demo...

                      The graphics are the best i have ever seen in a soccer game...I also love the atmosphere and that little mini game with Ronaldinho...I was playing on PS3 and the framerate is rock solid which is a plus for me...The controls are a little clunky for my tastes but after you get used to it its no big deal...I like the flow of the game, it feels like a soccer sim...The ref gives out plenty of cards on bad sliding tackles but outside of that foul calls aren't too frequent...Passing is also fluent and the goalies are challenging...

                      That said the gameplay in this demo overall felt pretty sloppy...Ball control and dribbling seems to be way too loose and i was getting a little delay when passing...Also why does the AI play so loose? My guys NEVER intercept a pass and are constantly just letting the opposition blow right passed them...I haven't played FIFA since the SNES days so i could be doing something wrong...Either way I hope there is a slider so we can adjust the AI's aggressiveness...

                      Overall i was impressed but not as much as i thought i would be...Hopefully the official release is more polished...
                      Some of the sloppiness you speak of, if it's what I think you're referring to, is a good thing. Gone are the days of a ball sticking to players feet, and the days are here when it resembles real life even more.

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                      • demencia_total
                        Bring back College Hoops
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 708

                        #131
                        Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by zekey55
                        Unfortunately, it doesnt feel like setting the game speed to slow made any difference whatsoever....hopefully this will fixed in the final version.
                        There is a difference, but it's very subtle. I kept switching back and forth a few times from medium to low speed, and I kept noticing that the speed in which my players move did change a tad. I specially noticed when controlling a slow but strong guy like Drogba, he felt a lot heavier in the the slow setting, which isn't a bad thing. Haven't given fast a try, but I think there is a difference, albeit, a very small one.

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                        • demencia_total
                          Bring back College Hoops
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 708

                          #132
                          Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by TheUglyOrgan
                          Some of the sloppiness you speak of, if it's what I think you're referring to, is a good thing. Gone are the days of a ball sticking to players feet, and the days are here when it resembles real life even more.
                          Indeed, this is a good thing. During my first games in the demo I felt like I couldn't handle my player as well as I did in 08 and PES, but once you get the handle of how it responds from player to player, it is incredibly crisp and dribbling feels more natural and magnetic. Sometimes there is a slight delay from when you press the pass or shoot button, but it seems to be in cases where you are dribbling fast in a direction and the ball is ahead of your player's reach for a split second. Once your player is within reasonable reach of the ball, they pass and shoot as they should, so it doesn't seem to be the nightmare of unresponsiveness that plagued 08.

                          Before I forget, I want to add that I'm happy that it seems like the midfield FINALLY has opened up. I would say that at the very least half of my attacks come from the middle. The AI closes the wings pretty well now, so when I try and take an angle and run past them, they close down and tackle the ball away or foul, which is encouraging. It seems that no longer I can just take a speedy player and run past everyone in the wings and then cross to the middle without a challenge from the defence. To me, this was one of the major gripes I had about FIFA and PES 08, because basically you could just take any player with speed and create havoc on the wings because the defenders would just bunch up in the middle and refuse to close down wide in time. Even when you were shifting defenders, they would always sag to the middle if you switched to another defender for a second.

                          The spacing seems to be a lot better, and the players trying to actively take open spaces while the defense tries to keep you honest is very encouraging for me. This will be my first day one FIFA purchase ever, and I can honestly say that I'm not missing PES one bit. Unless PES makes a HUGE jump this year, I don't think I'll be changing back for the foreseeable future.

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                          • Spanky
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 2785

                            #133
                            Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                            My one-month free gold trial membership expired literally hours before this demo was released. I simply created another profile/gamertag with a different e-mail address and signed up for a silver account. It gave me another one-month free gold membership. Now I don't have to wait a few more days before they release this demo to silver account holders. It's downloading now. Man, I love sticking it to EA.
                            It's on me. I shook his hand too hard. It was a hard ... kind of a slap-shake.

                            "What? You can't challenge a scoring play?''

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                            • Bahnzo
                              Can't spell antetokounmpo
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 2809

                              #134
                              Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by Spanky
                              Man, I love sticking it to EA.
                              And you are doing that how? It's XBL that controls the gold/silver and you only get 3 accounts per xbox that get a month free of Live.

                              Steam: Bahnzo

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                              • calcutta
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 1149

                                #135
                                Re: FIFA 09 Demo Available, Impressions Here

                                Overall, i'm really loving the demo in the same way as most people have described too (more difficult manual passing, improved aerial play, fouls getting called and actually attracting cards) and even other things like players calling for the ball or appealling for offside as well as the addition of the ref (and the ball can't even hit him!) and his assistants.

                                My main gripe is in regards to passing, and is something we've seen in past FIFA's. Here's a diagram



                                For some reason, despite the fact i was clearly passing to Blue player #2 in the first image, the player cursor auto-switched to player #3 instead, and #2 was then CPU-controlled, and he ran away from the ball! By the time i had manually swtich to my intended receiver #2, the opposition player had pretty much retrieved the loose ball.

                                My player switching slider is set to one click from the right BTW, so surely that is part of the problem. I prefer this setting because when its totally off, winning aerial balls becomes an issue because i have to manually switch to the player first, and that delay can often mean losing out on a contested header due to a lack of position. The issue pictured hasn't happened that much in my 6 or so games, but it can be a big issue depending on where it occurs on the field (in this case it was just inside my own half), as its unnecessarily giving up possession when the pass isn't that difficult to begin with. The other thing is that my pass settings are both on Manual, but considering the ball landed almost exactly where the intended receiver was at the time, i don't think that should be a problem...or if it is, then thats an issue that needs to be sorted before release.

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