NBA 2K9 Video: Lakers vs. Celtics

[bizcanos]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

My observations:

some of the passes look horrible, sometimes it completely kills the experience for me

there is some stiffness to the players' movements ( old engine is the culprit here)

jumpers sometimes look slow imo

That's called slider speed at 40.

[Sigma4Life]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

I can't stand how passes go straight through defenders. There are dozens of unrealistic passing angles in the short video footage I've seen. In Live 09 you really have to have a clear path to your receiver, not so in 2k9. Very disappointing.

[Sigma4Life]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

I also don't like how dribblers don't have to protect the ball when standing at the top of the key. It's so unrealistic when you see a PG standing there, not protecting his dribble while the defender is 2 feet away and still can't steal the ball. It seems that 2K is leaving a LOT to the imagination because what you see is not what you get.

[fluent2332]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

Based on this video and the Suns/Nuggets video, I'm probably not getting the game. Nice play by Pierce at the end, watch me casually walk to my spot on the play. The whole 2 gameplay vids were not good at all, honestly. The commentary is still filled with annoying one liners. Just ugh. Arena and the crowd looks nice though.

[blingballa333]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

Based on this video and the Suns/Nuggets video, I'm probably not getting the game. Nice play by Pierce at the end, watch me casually walk to my spot on the play. The whole 2 gameplay vids were not good at all, honestly. The commentary is still filled with annoying one liners. Just ugh. Arena and the crowd looks nice though.

Just another one that says this before the game comes out. They always end up buying the game in the end. Gameplay movies never do ANY game justice in sports. I rember seeing the first gameplay vid of 2k8 and I was sort of iffy about it, but look how the game turned out. Just a piece of advice, reserve your final decision til after you play the demo. And to the guy above about in Live 09 having to clear a path to pass is BS. I encounter passes going through people all the time in live. Overall 2k9 imo is looking great. With a the new presentation (- commentary), they are looking great this year. Other reasons the game will be great:
Off ball Movement
Graphics
Signature animations
animations in general
5 vs 5 online
Living rosters
updated CAP mode
able to tug on jerseys off ball

Along with many others

[footballfanatic1]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

2K9's gameplay still looks so much smoother than Live 09.

After playing the Live demo, it feels like you're lacking a certain amount of control of the player. The player doesn't respond immediately to what you've controlled him to do. Although they've made strides with their game, Live still plays really choppy and is unrealistic.

[fluent2332]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

Just another one that says this before the game comes out. They always end up buying the game in the end. Gameplay movies never do ANY game justice in sports. I rember seeing the first gameplay vid of 2k8 and I was sort of iffy about it, but look how the game turned out. Just a piece of advice, reserve your final decision til after you play the demo. And to the guy above about in Live 09 having to clear a path to pass is BS. I encounter passes going through people all the time in live. Overall 2k9 imo is looking great. With a the new presentation (- commentary), they are looking great this year. Other reasons the game will be great:
Off ball Movement
Graphics
Signature animations
animations in general
5 vs 5 online
Living rosters
updated CAP mode
able to tug on jerseys off ball

Along with many others

I'm just not seeing it man. Honestly I'm really disappointed, and yeah, I know it's just a video, but the A.I. is still horrible with no semblance of what to do on offense but play catch and make very questionable, ugly passes. I played 2k8 to death online but I want a game I can play offline too. 2K9 is not going to be that game, and I'm definitely not spending $60 on it.I will buy a used copy in a month or 2. It looks like all they did was flash it up a little bit. They gave everyone in the arena free crack to smoke. I think some of the players as well (Pierce, Shaq, Nash, Kobe, A.I., Melo, Stat, Martin, NENE, just to name about every player being controlled by the A.I.)

[blues rocker]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

after seeing these gameplay vids i am VERY disappointed. the game looks EXACTLY the same as last year with slightly improved graphics. same problems persist - crappy passing, inapproporiate shot animations, clunky animations that are too slow, poor spacing and strategy by the AI, sluggish and unresponsive post game...the list goes on.

live is looking better and better - 2k slacked off this year and did nothing...this might be the year that live passes 2k

[blingballa333]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

after seeing these gameplay vids i am VERY disappointed. the game looks EXACTLY the same as last year with slightly improved graphics. same problems persist - crappy passing, inapproporiate shot animations, clunky animations that are too slow, poor spacing and strategy by the AI, sluggish and unresponsive post game...the list goes on.

live is looking better and better - 2k slacked off this year and did nothing...this might be the year that live passes 2k

Slightly Improved graphics? You are blind. And what also makes no, how can say that the post game is unresponsive when you haven't even played the game. And to the bolded part, well.............

[barrist]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

after seeing these gameplay vids i am VERY disappointed. the game looks EXACTLY the same as last year with slightly improved graphics. same problems persist - crappy passing, inapproporiate shot animations, clunky animations that are too slow, poor spacing and strategy by the AI, sluggish and unresponsive post game...the list goes on.

live is looking better and better - 2k slacked off this year and did nothing...this might be the year that live passes 2k

Haven't heard that one before...

[NINJAK2]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

In conclusion, hire Steve Kerr.

Man.. if we only got Doug Collins..

I like Doug Collins but I'd really like to hear Hubie Brown do work on one of these games (2k hopefully). He is the best in the business in my opinion and his team/ play breakdown are second to none imo.

[Gmoney2002]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

After viewing this thing many times the Paul Pierce play just shows AI is quite not there yet. If you look at the play, Pierce was actually about to run to his spot in the play but got stuck behind Bynum and then he stopped and just walked to the spot. Getting stuck behiind Bynum appeared to confuse the AI. In real life he would have pushed off of Bynum to get to his spot.

Just my 2 cents..

Agreed biz. The play wasn't broken technically. As you said probably because the A.I didn't have a free path to the end point of the play, it calculates it as broken. If he had continued through, he would've had a wide open shot. Either way it only happened once during the video.

I will say though although the playcalling is not at Live's level, it is vastly improved from last year. Players get into their sets much quicker...

[Starrtech]

Re: NBA 2K9: Lakers vs. Celtics (User vs. CPU - Slider Speed @ 40)

I'd love Jeff Van Gundy, Marc Jackson and that other guy whose name escapes me right now.

[reptilexcq]

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I buy NBA2k to play online, NEVER for offline. But this year....based on the AIs, i might spend a little time on it. The AIs of the previous games have been trashed and unappealing...but this year...i have to admit based on some of the videos....they play way better and much smarter and at least give the human a challenge. I don't see perfection though as i already detect some flaws to the AIs...but overall, it's a HUGE improvement in a mode that hardly improve at all.

I am just excited to see what it feels like to play it and if the gameplay is more responsive or not. 2k8 is not very responsive due to unbreakable canned animations....and as a result feel very slow. Glad they bring the 2k7 speed back.

[BigRan]

First things 1st.....

Thanks to OS for putting up the videos of your beta copy and at least helping to give out info on this game.

Now onto my thoughts of the game....

From the videos I am not impressed with 2k9..... but again, for the last 2 games I was not impressed by the videos but once I got the game in my hand it was a different story.

I am a sim guy (like most of you) and it is disappointing to see how long it takes for plays to develop. this was one of my pet-peeves online as well...becuase if you tried to run plays it would take forever for something to develop.

Also, after playing Live09, the court seems to be incredibly cramped. You have almost no time to get free to do anything.

Last but not least, I was EXTREMELY disappointing to hear that TERRIBLE commentary. It is VERY annoying. I can listen to Live's commentary all-day long and it never gts old......even when I know the little ancedotes that Steve Kerr is going to give...it just sounds very 'real'.

Anyway, I will reserve final judgement until I play the demo.

Now with all of that said is 2k a bad game. No....far from it..... It's just that Live has shown us how to do some things better than 2k now, and it is demanding for 2k to have to step up and make some major changes to some things.