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  • fluent2332
    MVP
    • Aug 2005
    • 1735

    #46
    Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

    The cpu never plays great out of the box. Way too many inside shots taken, very few midrange shots taken, and as previously stated lack of one on one iso play. But if you take the time to edit both player and team tendencies, you can alter the cpu to play pretty much however you want them too. I've been able to edit these in 2k8 for some teams and resolove many of the AI problems you guys have been mentioning. But again it takes time, research, alot of cpu vs. cpu testing to really get it right.
    sorry fam, I'm not buying that. We've been saying that since what, 2K4 or 5? When they first implemented sliders?

    2K7 introduced sig styles, and in 2K9 there is still no true sig style, because every player and team in essence plays the same. They need to take signature style to the core, not just skim the surface with animations

    It's unfortunate, because while it will be the best basketball game available, there are still too many glaring deficiencies that CAN be fixed, and should have been already fixed (commentary, team/coach specific playsets, etc).

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    • Peter_OS
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 5088

      #47
      Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

      Too many one handed hook shots from the cpu IMO. Bosh and O'neil looked to be doing this too much. I would like to see more backing down and driving to the basket, or passing out to a wing player.

      The Calderon drive to the basket on a screen was a thing of beauty.

      The Arena foul was nice too!

      Thanks Steve!

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      • taiketsu
        Rookie
        • Feb 2006
        • 48

        #48
        Originally posted by fluent2332
        sorry fam, I'm not buying that. We've been saying that since what, 2K4 or 5? When they first implemented sliders?

        2K7 introduced sig styles, and in 2K9 there is still no true sig style, because every player and team in essence plays the same. They need to take signature style to the core, not just skim the surface with animations

        It's unfortunate, because while it will be the best basketball game available, there are still too many glaring deficiencies that CAN be fixed, and should have been already fixed (commentary, team/coach specific playsets, etc).
        The Association2.0 features, as well as the animations look fantastic, but I'm with fluent on this one - the core gameplay looks like it needs a lot of work. But as one can tell by a majority of the comments posted here, it's these superficial improvements that create the hype to move units. After all, it's hard to show off improved AI code in a promo video.

        And when people see something they don't like, I can't understand how they justify their planned purchase with the inclusion of sliders. The perfect sports game shouldn't need ANY sliders. The AI should already play like their real-life counterparts out of the box, and the gameplay ought to always encourage the player to use real strategies seen on the court, field or pitch to reach victory.

        For example, anybody who's played the Pro Evo soccer series knows they've never included sliders because their gameplay was JUST RIGHT. The series was never heavy on features (or licenses), but soccer fans kept coming back to it because it played how a soccer game should play, even with extended quarters. I agree that some of the more recent editions have looked less and less like real soccer, but the controls have always been intuitive, the AI acted accordingly, and I would need to exercise real soccer strategies to win. Another game with these qualities that comes to mind is Fight Night R3.

        If you ask me, developers offering sliders (to adjust gameplay) is a P*SSY MOVE. They release so-called sports games that often do not play anything like the real sport it tries to emulate. Then they include sliders "so you can play how you want to", in a sorry attempt to please everybody. In actuality, everybody just wants a sports game that plays like the actual sport. If they would just make a game that plays like the real-life counterpart, nobody would even bother with sliders.
        Last edited by taiketsu; 09-23-2008, 07:34 AM.

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        • LAKE4742
          MVP
          • Aug 2008
          • 1325

          #49
          Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

          Originally posted by taiketsu
          If you ask me, developers offering sliders (to adjust gameplay) is a P*SSY MOVE. They release so-called sports games that often do not play anything like the real sport it tries to emulate. Then they include sliders "so you can play how you want to", in a sorry attempt to please everybody. In actuality, everybody just wants a sports game that plays like the actual sport. If they would just make a game that plays like the real-life counterpart, nobody would even bother with sliders.
          WORD!!!!

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          • Mintsa
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 6668

            #50
            Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

            Thanks for giving the Raps some love Steve.

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            • riDIRKulous41
              Pro
              • Jan 2003
              • 724

              #51
              Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

              How do I get this video to show? I just get the grey box loading forever....I did not have this problem yesterday, videos worked fine then.

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              • jewelz1132
                MVP
                • Jun 2003
                • 1353

                #52
                Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

                I agree with both fluent2332 and taiketsu to a certain extent...If theres a way to make the game better I wouldnt mind using sliders..(Playmakers did wonders for Live lol)..The thing wit me tho, I like seeing a big change each year that can really separate it from previous years..and I think that 2K has got to a point where the major changes wont really happen anymore because they have a very strong foundation to just add things to each year..It's not a bad thing at all, but its kinda hard to justify buying it each year...too bad I'ma impulse buyer lol

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                • jewelz1132
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 1353

                  #53
                  Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

                  Originally posted by riDIRKulous41
                  How do I get this video to show? I just get the grey box loading forever....I did not have this problem yesterday, videos worked fine then.
                  just keep refreshing..It will come up eventually

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                  • Rinse
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 317

                    #54
                    Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

                    Too bad 2K couldnt get the new court design in this year.

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                    • blues rocker
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1921

                      #55
                      Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

                      Originally posted by J.R. Locke
                      Dude been there. My College hoops 2k8 franchise is edited to all hell. I just see the same problems with the fundemental aspects of the game. I don't see any isolation and patience by the CPU. For all this signature style they don't really play like those players. I don't see any improvement in this area and I know there is no slider out there that will isolate Melo and watch him work, I mean really work to get his own shot. The CPU will likely pass to the cutter or back to the PG where it will set up a different play.

                      I guess we will see but these videos show that it looks like the same basic gameplay from the last 4 years. Which is good and bad.....
                      i think the reason there are no isolations and one-on-one playes is because 2k's ball-handling system is terrible. they need to copy live's control scheme where the right stick controls dribbling moves. it's just too hard to control dribbling with the same stick that you use to move. you never end up doing the proper move.

                      the shot stick is totally unnecessary because you could pull off the same variety of shots with a shot button in combination with the left analog stick (to pull off fade-aways, sideways leaners, etc.). i think they really just need to go back to using the right analog for dribbling.

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                      • Mintsa
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6668

                        #56
                        Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

                        Originally posted by Rinse
                        Too bad 2K couldnt get the new court design in this year.
                        I dont think any of the NBA games will have the new court this season.

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                        • Rinse
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 317

                          #57
                          Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

                          Originally posted by Mintsa
                          I dont think any of the NBA games will have the new court this season.
                          True, also Ukic has a generic white guy's picture, haha.

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                          • DC
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 17996

                            #58
                            Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

                            Good, the CPU finally reaches for steals now
                            Concrete evidence/videos please

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                            • DC
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 17996

                              #59
                              Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

                              Originally posted by Checmate101
                              As a Wizard fan, the wizards do go through Haywood at the start of games, to get him off and feeling good, seems like when he feels like he's involved early he plays better, as to the improvement of him this year. So that vid seem about right to be for them to go through haywood, and usually when haywood gets the ball he's not passing it. So that's about right.
                              I wonder why 2K NEVER gives Haywood a headband
                              Concrete evidence/videos please

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                              • DC
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 17996

                                #60
                                Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

                                -Why doesn't moon have a highflyer symbol?
                                2K hasn't done that in years
                                Concrete evidence/videos please

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