NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

**Goffs** · 09-23-2008, 10:27 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by Ruff Ryder

Ah, I got you. But in numerous other threads there have been people saying that the game needs an overhaul, from commentary to the entire engine.

I'm just banking on Charles Barkley, Ernie Johnson, and Kenny Smith for 2k10! Commentary would be amaaaazing.

It also irks me that even Clark Kellogg gets stuck with the exact same lines that Kenny had in 2k8 (and 2k7, 2k6).

yeah that was a total cop out by 2k just giving the same damn lines to Kellogg...whats the point of getting rid of Smith if its the same rehashed lines...

**Pared** · 09-23-2008, 10:28 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by blues rocker

the shot stick is kind of unnecessary, as you can do all the same shots by just using a shot button with the left stick to control fade-aways and leaners.

This explains everything. Now I understand why you're making the comments you are.

**Parasight** · 09-23-2008, 10:29 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

They added the thundersticks during FTs!

DC · 09-23-2008, 10:29 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

1. Whoa! The shot stick is not needed? You know you don't have to use it correct?

2. Isomotion complaints translated, "I don't know how to use it"

DC · 09-23-2008, 10:31 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

this year live took 2k's play-calling system and made it much better by making it easier to use and made variations within each play so that even if you don't follow the play exactly, there will be other options that arise.

Yea 2K needs to borrow this for next year. Live really stepped their game up when it came to play calling options.

I still hate the fact that (as it seems) 2K doesn't allow us to add/drop plays from a team's playbook when their personnel changes.

Pointless of having Scoring PG plays for the Wizards when Gilbert is out for the season

**Bornindamecca** · 09-23-2008, 10:32 AM

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I'm kind of with DC on this one. You guys are jumping on this dude a bit, but he has some valid points. What he's saying about the commentary is spot on, and I think it ties directly into the overlays issue.

I'm not saying 2k9 doesn't look great. I'll reiterate it just so people don't take what I'm saying out of context: I have a feeling this will be a great game. That having been said, when people complain about the presentation it has to be noted that NBA 2k9 is still playing catch up to NFL 2k5. It really is hard to wrap my head around that in certain areas.

And aholbert, when you say that 95% of sports games have bad commentary, you have to mention that Live is in the 5% with good commentary. 2k is the pretty girl with the great personality and bad breath. We just want her to take a mint! Live is chubby, dumb and lazy, but at least she shows up with some Altoids. We just want 2k to take those Altoids, man.

**blues rocker** · 09-23-2008, 10:34 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by DCAllAmerican

1. Whoa! The shot stick is not needed? You know you don't have to use it correct?

2. Isomotion complaints translated, "I don't know how to use it"

i know you don't need to use the shot stick, dude...what i'm saying is they should get rid of the shot stick and use the right stick for dribbling moves instead.

DC · 09-23-2008, 10:35 AM

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People on these 2K Board seem tog et very offended whenever someone says SOMETHING of Live is better than THAT SOMETHING of 2K. Nobody is saying Live is BETTER or will EVER be BETTER.

2K has a Jordan effect almost. If someone says that Vince was a better flyer than Mike, people jump on that person as if they are saying Vince is BETTER than Mike.

Stop cathcing feelings folks.

But dude is trippin with the shot stick/isomotion complaints.

DC · 09-23-2008, 10:35 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by blues rocker

i know you don't need to use the shot stick, dude...what i'm saying is they should get rid of the shot stick and use the right stick for dribbling moves instead.

Ok

I don't want to fight.

**fluent2332** · 09-23-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by Pared

I don't know if this post should be taken seriously. Have you not seen the videos?

I don't understand how you can make statements like that. Questioning the developer's decisions when you haven't even played the game yet.

I don't understand how you can't see the same thing when we watched the same videos.

Man.. they kept the terrible commentary formula they have had for years. Please explain why. Rob Jones and someone else from 2K who was interviewed said themselves that "this year, we were really given the opportunity to just improve on all aspects of last year's game" .. ok great, so, they didn't think the commentary needed a serious overhaul? How about the A.I., which still does not have team-specific plays, and has not gotten team-specific tendencies correct yet. Every team runs the same handful of plays. Granted I haven't played the game, but I've watched the videos. The A.I. looks extremely similar to 2K8. I'm hoping for the best but I'm being realistic.

**Goffs** · 09-23-2008, 10:37 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by blues rocker

i know you don't need to use the shot stick, dude...what i'm saying is they should get rid of the shot stick and use the right stick for dribbling moves instead.

its a good thing theres Live huh?

**Bornindamecca** · 09-23-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by blues rocker

i know you don't need to use the shot stick, dude...what i'm saying is they should get rid of the shot stick and use the right stick for dribbling moves instead.

why?

**aholbert32** · 09-23-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by fluent2332

They still have ridiculous gameplay-interrupting replays. I see them on TV all the time. I'll give you the stat overlays, but no way is commentary a nitpick. Live's commentary is good, this commentary is HORRENDOUS. It's really so bad that I would turn it off. It goes like this, made shot = terrible one-liner. It's so bad, that it sucks the life out of the game. Not to mention it's the same damn script as the past 2 years, when they promised revamped commentary. It's so bad, that the color commentator said "you knew that one was good as soon as it left his hand" on a FREE THROW.

2K presentation producer, what the hell are you thinking?

The game looks STERILE, stale, and like I've played it before. The individual and team A.I. are still nowhere near close to playing like their real-life counterparts. Why don't they add team or coach specific playsets? Watch, try playing Association and tell me that all the teams don't play the same. It's been the same since forever and you know that, yet it's an area they could EASILY improve.

And I'm not trying to bash it, this is what it is to me. I'm a hardcore 2K player, but I can't change what I see.

That really sucks for you. I dont see any of the stuff you see and the replays are so infrequent, they dont bother me at all. Also if commentary is that important to you that it "sucks the life out of a game"....maybe its time to get a new hobby. Like I said most sports games have bad commentary.

I never had a problem with teams playing the same last year and I dont think that will be an issue this year. I played a ton of games last year and never had that problem. I havent seen many people complain about that either. I dont obsess over little things like commentary and I find that I have a lot more fun playing video games than most people here.

**Bornindamecca** · 09-23-2008, 10:41 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by fluent2332

I don't understand how you can't see the same thing when we watched the same videos.

Man.. they kept the terrible commentary formula they have had for years. Please explain why. Rob Jones and someone else from 2K who was interviewed said themselves that "this year, we were really given the opportunity to just improve on all aspects of last year's game" .. ok great, so, they didn't think the commentary needed a serious overhaul? How about the A.I., which still does not have team-specific plays, and has not gotten team-specific tendencies correct yet. Every team runs the same handful of plays. Granted I haven't played the game, but I've watched the videos. The A.I. looks extremely similar to 2K8. I'm hoping for the best but I'm being realistic.

I disagree on the A.I. I'm seeing a lot of improvements on the AI. I'm not even going to get specific, but when it comes to the AI I think you need to look a little closer.

You're spot on about the commentary though. Someone from 2k said they felt they gave the commentary a major overhaul and that we'd be really excited about it or some other nonsense. The commentary is ****, and its the exact same **** its been for years. Apparently, they don't know how bad their commentary is and if we want better commentary, we need to tell him.

I don't understand the resistance to that.

DC · 09-23-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by fluent2332

How about the A.I., which still does not have team-specific plays, and has not gotten team-specific tendencies correct yet. Every team runs the same handful of plays

I can't argue here. The thing that makes me mad about 2K is the fact that the AI doesn't even USE the plays in a team's playbook. They use plays from the GENERIC playbook.

What is the point of having a TEAM playbook when the AI won't even use THOSE plays. I am with you here man, this is VERY upsetting.

Another feature that College Hoops had correct that NBA 2K refuses to fix.

NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

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