NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

**elprez98** · 09-23-2008, 10:41 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by aholbert32

That really sucks for you. I dont see any of the stuff you see and the replays are so infrequent, they dont bother me at all. Also if commentary is that important to you that it "sucks the life out of a game"....maybe its time to get a new hobby. Like I said most sports games have bad commentary.

I never had a problem with teams playing the same last year and I dont think that will be an issue this year. I played a ton of games last year and never had that problem. I havent seen many people complain about that either. I dont obsess over little things like commentary and I find that I have a lot more fun playing video games than most people here.

I'm kind of in between. I thoroughly enjoy the game without commentary, but I've been playing games for a LONG time without commentary, including NFL 2k5. To me, all commentary gets boring after a while so I just turn it off once I start hearing to many repeats.

On another note, is my computer just that terrible, because the vids are choppy for me. Any help?

**aholbert32** · 09-23-2008, 10:42 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by Bornindamecca

I'm not saying 2k9 doesn't look great. I'll reiterate it just so people don't take what I'm saying out of context: I have a feeling this will be a great game. That having been said, when people complain about the presentation it has to be noted that NBA 2k9 is still playing catch up to NFL 2k5. It really is hard to wrap my head around that in certain areas.

And aholbert, when you say that 95% of sports games have bad commentary, you have to mention that Live is in the 5% with good commentary. 2k is the pretty girl with the great personality and bad breath. We just want her to take a mint! Live is chubby, dumb and lazy, but at least she shows up with some Altoids. We just want 2k to take those Altoids, man.

Yes but even Live's commentary gets old after a few months. Most of you dont know because you havent played that game much in the last few years. I have no problem with people saying that the commentary needs a change but to act as if its an important (game ruining as fluent just said) flaw is ridiculous. Commentary doesnt rate on most casual/hardcore fans top 10 list of wanted features.

DC · 09-23-2008, 10:43 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Yes but even Live's commentary gets old after a few months.

As opposed to 2K's gettin old in a few weeks. Hell since we ALREADY have heard the 2K9 commentary for 3 years now it might even be old in a few days.

DC · 09-23-2008, 10:44 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by aholbert32

I have no problem with people saying that the commentary needs a change but to act as if its an important (game ruining as fluent just said) flaw is ridiculous. Commentary doesnt rate on most casual/hardcore fans top 10 list of wanted features.

Typical OS 2K Board, "It ain't that important to me so it shouldn't be important to you so you shouldn't be complaining about it" - defense mechanism

**elprez98** · 09-23-2008, 10:45 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by DCAllAmerican

As opposed to 2K's gettin old in a few weeks. Hell since we ALREADY have heard the 2K9 commentary for 3 years now it might even be old in a few days.

Seriously DC. You know you've never played Live for more than a week anyway. :wink:

**Pared** · 09-23-2008, 10:45 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by fluent2332

I don't understand how you can't see the same thing when we watched the same videos.

Man.. they kept the terrible commentary formula they have had for years. Please explain why. Rob Jones and someone else from 2K who was interviewed said themselves that "this year, we were really given the opportunity to just improve on all aspects of last year's game" .. ok great, so, they didn't think the commentary needed a serious overhaul? How about the A.I., which still does not have team-specific plays, and has not gotten team-specific tendencies correct yet. Every team runs the same handful of plays. Granted I haven't played the game, but I've watched the videos. The A.I. looks extremely similar to 2K8. I'm hoping for the best but I'm being realistic.

Again, I feel until you've played the game you can't make those comments.

We'll just leave it at that until the release.

Others have touched upon the commentary... that's known already. Play-calling looks to have more options in Live... only because there is a Logo above more than one guy during a play.

Guys are looking for subtle gameplay enhancements through a video... and they will only see them once they've played the game.

Again, this goes back to my point of 2k being held to a different standard than Live. Those enjoying Live are just happy it's playable and enjoyable. 2k has an entirely different group of overly-obsessive individuals to cater to. It's a lose-lose scenario for 2k.

**texasgmr** · 09-23-2008, 10:46 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Man that was a nice little video there, thanks Steve for posting it. Damn this game looks so sweet! I loved 2k8 and know that 2k9 is the only way to go this year as well.

The oop looked nice as well as Arenas getting fouled that was pretty realistic too. Also, Calderon's layup was nice.

DC · 09-23-2008, 10:46 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Others have touched upon the commentary... that's known already. Play-calling looks to have more options in Live... only because there is a Logo above more than one guy during a play.

That is NOT the only reason why Live's play calling system looks better. Take of your glasses Pared. Seriously man

**Bornindamecca** · 09-23-2008, 10:46 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by aholbert32

I never had a problem with teams playing the same last year and I dont think that will be an issue this year. I played a ton of games last year and never had that problem. I havent seen many people complain about that either.

He's speaking in absolutes, which is obscuring the point. The AI didn't play exactly the same from team to team, but when you take certain factors into consideration:
-lead passing
-late shot clock jumpers
-back door cuts
-lack of off the dribble shooting
-obscure player hot streaks
-robotic application of double teams
-lack of attampts to draw charges

Those are things that all of the CPU teams did last year, and those tendencies did bring teams closer together in similarity than they would be in real life.

**Pared** · 09-23-2008, 10:47 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by aholbert32

Yes but even Live's commentary gets old after a few months. Most of you dont know because you havent played that game much in the last few years. I have no problem with people saying that the commentary needs a change but to act as if its an important (game ruining as fluent just said) flaw is ridiculous. Commentary doesnt rate on most casual/hardcore fans top 10 list of wanted features.

Quite honestly... those who have not played Live the previous years will feel the commentary is new and fresh since they have not had privy to hearing those lines before.

A bit confusing trying to make my point but I think most will understand what I'm getting at.

**aholbert32** · 09-23-2008, 10:47 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by DCAllAmerican

Typical OS 2K Board, "It ain't that important to me so it shouldn't be important to you so you shouldn't be complaining about it" - defense mechanism

Thats a ****ing idiotic response. I'm not saying that people cant complain. I said as much in my response. I said that people yell "why havent they fixed that" and there are/were much more important things to fix. I think most fans would say that crowd sound was much more of an issue in 2k8 than commentary and they fixed the crowd in 2k9.

**jfsolo** · 09-23-2008, 10:48 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by SageInfinite

I swear some people act like NBA 2k was just a placeholder until NBA Live got good/playable again. NBA 2k has consistantly been a good solid game, yet it needs an overhaul(some areas it does). EA makes Live playable after all these years, now all of a sudden its the better game. SMH

.

This is the amazing effect that happens when you create a BRAND and stamp it into the minds of the public. For a large percentage of the sports gaming customer base all won't be right in the universe again until EA has the best game, and all others are trying to catch up to them.

Its not even a conscious thought process either. The default mindset is: EA is the Top Dog.

**aholbert32** · 09-23-2008, 10:49 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by DCAllAmerican

As opposed to 2K's gettin old in a few weeks. Hell since we ALREADY have heard the 2K9 commentary for 3 years now it might even be old in a few days.

Same can be said for Live. I've heard a ton of the lines in the demo in previous versions. All commentary gets old.

**Pared** · 09-23-2008, 10:49 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by DCAllAmerican

That is NOT the only reason why Live's play calling system looks better. Take of your glasses Pared. Seriously man

LOL Quite the ironic statement, despite the context.

Again, Live's play calling is not a huge advancement over 2k's. They have about 2 or 3 differences in their execution, that's all.

**fluent2332** · 09-23-2008, 10:49 AM

Re: NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

Originally posted by DCAllAmerican

Another feature that College Hoops had correct that NBA 2K refuses to fix.

Exactly

I have no problem with people saying that the commentary needs a change but to act as if its an important (game ruining as fluent just said) flaw is ridiculous.

Same commentary as last year's + no team specific playcalling, does not warrant a purchase for me. These are flaws that could vastly improve the game but have not been fixed.

He just put one big paw up there, and jammed it thru!!! Whoever wrote that would be fired if I was running the show. lol

Game-breaking, nah. Annoying as all hell, yep. Can be fixed or improved upon? yep. Should have been fixed and improved upon by now? yep. I can't say 2K has any excuse not to have fixed those features in 2K9

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