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  • Pasdabru
    Rookie
    • Mar 2003
    • 43

    #331
    Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

    Hopefully it's just a coincidence. But I had never had a freeze in my franchise prior to today in my first game after the patch (360). Just froze up after a play at the playcall screen. Could not select any formations, but could right click on view the whole replay. After which stuck back at the playcall screen. Also able to hit start for the pause menu, but could not get out of that. Don't think this is similar to the freezes everyone was talking about prior to the patch, hopefully just a dirty disc situation.

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    • Zuke
      Rookie
      • Aug 2008
      • 179

      #332
      Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

      when does the progression happen like after so many weeks or what. does it happen after preseason to

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      • dave374
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 1928

        #333
        Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

        Just finished my second 10-minute quarter game post-patch and I gotta say I am pretty damned happy with the results.
        If anyone is the robo-QB now, it's me.
        So far, in the two games:
        CPU: Kyle Orton 16-30
        CPU: Phillip Rivers 17-34 3 INTs

        CPU run game has been great with my sliders (see slider section).
        Forte ran for over 100 yards and Tomlinson 19-84 (they had to pass a lot in the 4th quarter).

        I am seeing CPU QB throw deep balls now, something I didn't see before, though I'd still like to see more.

        If EA could improve the CPU's gamecalling logic, this game would be borderline great.

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        • bull
          Rookie
          • Feb 2003
          • 28

          #334
          Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

          Originally posted by Pasdabru
          Hopefully it's just a coincidence. But I had never had a freeze in my franchise prior to today in my first game after the patch (360). Just froze up after a play at the playcall screen. Could not select any formations, but could right click on view the whole replay. After which stuck back at the playcall screen. Also able to hit start for the pause menu, but could not get out of that. Don't think this is similar to the freezes everyone was talking about prior to the patch, hopefully just a dirty disc situation.
          I had this exact situation in a non franchise game. I was on defense, and after about a minute of being unable to do anything but view the whole replay, the action returned to the field and I just audibled to a defensive play. After that, no problem the rest of the game. I almost shut the game off thinking it had completely frozen.

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          • Bulldogs78
            Banned
            • Aug 2008
            • 464

            #335
            Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

            I love how when the CPU has the ball at my 20 yard line, 4th quarter, 1st and 10, around 2:15 left score being 22-20 and they let the clock run down. To the 2 minute.

            Good stuff right there.

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            • deon2333
              Rookie
              • Sep 2008
              • 90

              #336
              Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

              When downloading the patch, should you erase the first patch then download the second or just download the patch?
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              • jonesha2000
                Pro
                • Jul 2003
                • 974

                #337
                Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

                Originally posted by Bulldogs78
                I love how when the CPU has the ball at my 20 yard line, 4th quarter, 1st and 10, around 2:15 left score being 22-20 and they let the clock run down. To the 2 minute.

                Good stuff right there.
                I hate that...that's the most frustrating and helpless feeling that you can have. Losing the game and just watching the clock tick away. It just gives you time to reflect on all the dumb a** plays you made during the game...It's realistic football but I swear it makes my blood boil. But I agree it should be in the game for realism.

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                • The Chef
                  Moderator
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 13684

                  #338
                  Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by jonesha2000
                  I hate that...that's the most frustrating and helpless feeling that you can have. Losing the game and just watching the clock tick away. It just gives you time to reflect on all the dumb a** plays you made during the game...It's realistic football but I swear it makes my blood boil. But I agree it should be in the game for realism.
                  Im going to assume he meant when the CPU is behind 22-20 and they would rather let the clock tick down to the 2 minute warning instead of actually trying to get a play off before the warning. I could be wrong but that would make the most sense.
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                  • erickonasis
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 3016

                    #339
                    Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by Walker8
                    I agree that the completion percentages are out of whack and people are seeing these things. I'm not arguing that. I just think it's more a pass coverage problem than it has to do with the AI of the qb. It's a little bit of both maybe, but I think we are seeing these completion percentages because EA overcompensated for the juiced up defensive coverage ai from last year. If you watch the coverage ai the cpu rarely if ever makes a play on the ball and there are players wide open all over the place. the coverage ai in general is really bad. I agree it has to do with the engine entirely and the ai is not right plus its not balanced correctly. I don't think it's robo qb's we are necessarily seeing though. if you watch the qb they aren't doing anything that is really juiced. they are too accurate and dont make enough bad passes but if you pressure them, or have good coverage, they do. All I'm saying its it seems like more a pass coverage problem and that is why the completion percentages are out of whack.

                    The problem with this game is the offense has advanced and the defense hasn't really and we are left with an unbalanced game. If EA ever concentrates on defensive ai and the cpu running game we will see a good version of madden. I agree the ai of the qb could be tweaked a bit but i tend to think we are just seeing this amplified because of other problems with the game. EA is pretty much inept imo and can't tell their *** from their elbow on a lot of this stuff, or they just don't care and rush out this game and it's extremely unbalanced. Last year was bad with all the interceptions and this year there really is no excuse. They had a whole year to fix the problems with passing and all they did was just make it just as messed up in the other direction.
                    You are completely right its definitely the coverage because i notice it too i can put defensive guy in the right spots and guys will still be wide open..Even when i know where they are going to through the ball (especially slants or underneath) i am almost helpless defending those passes...I could call under defensive plays all day and they still complete passes underneath
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                    • crk916
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 5

                      #340
                      Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

                      Ok I don't want to read through 30 pages of posts...sorry.

                      But is it true that uniforms don't get dirty after the patch? If so....that is pretty lame.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52832

                        #341
                        Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by Bulldogs78
                        I love how when the CPU has the ball at my 20 yard line, 4th quarter, 1st and 10, around 2:15 left score being 22-20 and they let the clock run down. To the 2 minute.

                        Good stuff right there.
                        to be honest, if I was trailing the cpu by less than 3 and had the ball in their redzone, you can bet your butt that I would let the clock tick. I know that I "have 3 in the pocket" so why score and leave ample time on the clock for them to mount a comeback?

                        I don't view that as a problem honestly, I think most coaches would be happy to let those 15 seconds pass by.
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                        • Segagendude
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 7940

                          #342
                          Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by crk916
                          Ok I don't want to read through 30 pages of posts...sorry.

                          But is it true that uniforms don't get dirty after the patch? If so....that is pretty lame.

                          No, they still get dirty, but now there's field degredation as well...

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                          • crk916
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 5

                            #343
                            Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by Segagendude
                            No, they still get dirty, but now there's field degredation as well...
                            There has been alot of people saying that they don't get dirty. I will fire mine up tonight and play a game to see.

                            Thanks

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                            • bukktown
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3257

                              #344
                              Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              to be honest, if I was trailing the cpu by less than 3 and had the ball in their redzone, you can bet your butt that I would let the clock tick. I know that I "have 3 in the pocket" so why score and leave ample time on the clock for them to mount a comeback?

                              I don't view that as a problem honestly, I think most coaches would be happy to let those 15 seconds pass by.
                              I agree. Maybe the O.P. made a mistake on what side of the field he was talking about. Or maybe he was being serious.

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                              • shades
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 23

                                #345
                                Re: Madden 09 Patch #2 Released, Impressions Here

                                is there any way to get the cpu to hike the ball faster? its annoying having to wait for him to hike when i already have my plays done

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