Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

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  • baa7
    Banned
    • Jul 2004
    • 11691

    #16
    Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

    Originally posted by welshman11
    By slowly being pushed out of hockey...does that include the two fights in the last PRE-season game i saw
    Believe me, in a decade or so, hockey will no longer have ANY fighting. We are evolving as human beings, even the Neanderthals among us.

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    • baa7
      Banned
      • Jul 2004
      • 11691

      #17
      Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

      Originally posted by mddst34
      Fighting in hockey is a checks and balances system amongst the players.
      Right: I check your face out by balancing my fist on your nose.

      That's 1950's hockey-speak, bro. It's a new millennium now.

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      • welshman11
        Rookie
        • Sep 2007
        • 55

        #18
        Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

        are you calling me a neanderthal good sir! :wink:

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        • baa7
          Banned
          • Jul 2004
          • 11691

          #19
          Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

          Originally posted by welshman11
          are you calling me a neanderthal good sir! :wink:
          Hey, I would LOVE to walk across the street and punch my neighbour in the face. But I also know how incredibly stupid that would make me look

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            Johnny Canuck
            • Dec 2004
            • 1279

            #20
            Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

            As long as hockey players still fight, I want it in my game period. If somebody takes a shot at one of the Sedins, somebody better be dropping the gloves.

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            • tgalv
              Banned
              • Jan 2007
              • 617

              #21
              Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

              fighting rulz

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              • Stormyhog
                All Star
                • Feb 2004
                • 5304

                #22
                Fighting keeps the cheapshot artist's in check and they will think twice before going after the star players. Look back at the 80's Oilers if you tried to mess with Gretzky you had to deal with Semenko, Mcsorely and McClelland to name a few.
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                • Roscosuper II
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 141

                  #23
                  Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

                  Fighting in hockey is about the players policing themselves, especially at the pro level. And there's more to it than fighting. Players are held responsible for their actions, just ask Claude Lemieux. If you think there's cheap shots in hockey now, it would be insane with out fighting. One guy runs another into the boards, in return that guy gets hit low, etc etc and on and on. As for the people who say "ohhh fighting is stupid, wahh" they're probably people who would be to afraid to be in that position or people whose parents didn't hold them accountable for anything and resolved all their problems for them.
                  Get "Real" EA Sports

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                  • kenp86
                    MVP
                    • May 2008
                    • 2979

                    #24
                    Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

                    Originally posted by celtic78
                    id rather they fix the penalties stuff and the hitting being ridiculous even with power at 1.... even at zero its still a bit much...petr prucha can flatten everyone on the ice and still be skating around without any risk....
                    Agreed fighting needs to be re-done.. Its too easy.. 1-2 punches and its over... I also think they should add this idea into the game next year If you go after their star player(Ovechkin or Crosby or someone like that), pick a fight with the wrong person or to many times, or just plain injure someone; they should send thier toghest line out their with the big tought player and he should start goinf after you. Trying to pick a fight or just smashing you any chance they get.. That would be cool
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                    • baa7
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 11691

                      #25
                      Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

                      Originally posted by Roscosuper II
                      As for the people who say "ohhh fighting is stupid, wahh" they're probably people who would be to afraid to be in that position or people whose parents didn't hold them accountable for anything and resolved all their problems for them.
                      Or they could be confident, intelligent adults who tell their kids and others that smacking someone in the face with your fist is juvenile, it resolves nothing, and it only brings you down to the other person's level. Honestly, that really could be it. And in my case, it is.

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                      • savoie2006
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                        • Sep 2006
                        • 4657

                        #26
                        Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

                        I just feel it's the last aspect of the game that needs improved. While it would be nice if it really had an effect on team momentum and such. As it is though, it doesn't really mean anything in regards to the game, thus isn't that important to me.

                        I would rather see Teammate AI, Dynasty Depth, and other aspects of the game improved first.
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                        • Roscosuper II
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 141

                          #27
                          Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

                          Originally posted by baa7
                          Or they could be confident, intelligent adults who tell their kids and others that smacking someone in the face with your fist is juvenile, it resolves nothing, and it only brings you down to the other person's level. Honestly, that really could be it. And in my case, it is.
                          Well, in hockey it keeps the things from getting to out of hand. Honestly, it does. And I wish you would go watch something else and stop ruining hockey with this yuppie ideology.
                          Get "Real" EA Sports

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                            Johnny Canuck
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 1279

                            #28
                            Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

                            No need to throw insults, or make assumptions about ones character. Why is it that people who don't agree on something can't have a decent discussion?

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                            • Kingfish
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 442

                              #29
                              Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

                              Originally posted by baa7
                              Or they could be confident, intelligent adults who tell their kids and others that smacking someone in the face with your fist is juvenile, it resolves nothing, and it only brings you down to the other person's level. Honestly, that really could be it. And in my case, it is.
                              Now imagine...you are the sniper for your team, lets say, 6'1 and maybe 200lbs. You release a PERFECT shot and JUST as your arms go up to celebrate with the red light...next thing you feel is the cold ice on your cheek mixed with warm blood gushing from the cut over your eye.

                              You've been cheap-shot'd by the opposing teams enforcer type...he's 6'4 230lbs and had about 400 pim last season. He is standing over you...glaring down and smiling his toothless grin at you.

                              Yeah, he is going to get maybe 5 + a game for it but...you will most likely be looking for him every time he skates out on the ice the next 4+ times you play this team.

                              So, this story can play out one of two ways. The linesman skates over and escorts him off the ice to the cheers/boos of the crowd and two team-mates help YOU to the locker room for 40+ stitches and prolly a concussion...why did that goon do this? Cause this is YOUR team and you think fighting is juvenile and you refuse to allow your Coach/GM to have any enforcers on the bench with you!

                              So, lets see how that plays out in REAL hockey...

                              Because Marty McSorely IS skating out there with you Wayne, Bob Probert simply skates over and bumps you after your goal, calling your mom a name that you'll need to lookup when you get back to the lockeroom...and even this slight contact with you STILL draws a ruckus between the teams tough guys.

                              The enforcer is there...its reality...until they remove fighting all together, its there and I for one WANT it in the game. I want it cause its a SIMULATION of real hockey to me(and a lot of others too I bet).

                              Fighting actually helps calm the game down and keeps it even keeled by giving those who need it, an outlet that is legal(in the terms of the game) and that has proper repercussions.

                              You know, life should be so simple.
                              I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I don’t think you realize that what you heard was not entirely what I meant.

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                              • IBYCFOTA
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 110

                                #30
                                Re: Fixing Fighting in NHL 2010: Fight Night on Ice

                                Originally posted by baa7
                                Or they could be confident, intelligent adults who tell their kids and others that smacking someone in the face with your fist is juvenile, it resolves nothing, and it only brings you down to the other person's level. Honestly, that really could be it. And in my case, it is.
                                Sorry but this is nonsense. It's one of the most physical sports there is, and fighting has been as big of a part of the game of hockey as the alley-oop is to basketball or the double-play in baseball.

                                Honestly the fighting engine in this game is pathetic. It's about as intuitive as rock em sock em robots. I don't expect the fighting in a hockey game to ever be very realistic but the system in NHL 09 is boring, stupid, and unrealistic. It does not need to be as deep as a boxing game, but for the love of god it should be deeper than the fighting of the karate kid on super nintendo.

                                Whether you like the fighting or not, it will always be a part of hockey and will never be removed from a hockey game. At this point though I'd rather not fight at all than waste 30 seconds fighting in this game.

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