National League Divisional Series: Milwaukee v. Philadelphia

**Scottdau** · 10-02-2008, 08:27 PM

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Well this is the playoffs. What ever you did in the season, don't mean ****!

**JBH3** · 10-02-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by Scottdau

Well this is the playoffs. What ever you did in the season, don't mean ****!

Kinda like how all those other reg. season games where CC pitched on 3 days rest...but couldn't produce the same results tonight...Is that the kind of difference you speak of...oh ok.:wink:

Its ironic that the Phillies swept the Brewers in 4 games at home in the reg season, and just won two in a row in the postseason...But you're right...yea...the reg. season means squat.

**OSUFan_88** · 10-02-2008, 10:11 PM

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I told ya'll that CC would meltdown.

He just isn't that good in the post season.

**Scottdau** · 10-03-2008, 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by JBH3

Kinda like how all those other reg. season games where CC pitched on 3 days rest...but couldn't produce the same results tonight...Is that the kind of difference you speak of...oh ok.:wink:

Its ironic that the Phillies swept the Brewers in 4 games at home in the reg season, and just won two in a row in the postseason...But you're right...yea...the reg. season means squat.

What I mean is the pressure is different. I know you know that, but the truth is you have to raise your game up and who ever takes it to the next level will usually be the domintator. I look at it like this. C.C. was dominating when the pressure wasn't this high, now that it is high and players have turn it up a notch they are now on his level. He needs to turn it up too, to get back up top. It was the same with A Rod. The problem is some players can't do it for what ever reason I don't know. It is what it is. Some players excel in the playoffs and some don't do **** in the regular season.

**SPTO** · 10-03-2008, 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by OSUFan_88

I told ya'll that CC would meltdown.

He just isn't that good in the post season.

Agreed, It's funny how we get ridiculed for our opinion on CC and he proves us right again. He's a very good regular season pitcher but whether it be his maturity or age he just can't translate it to the playoffs for some reason.

**OSUFan_88** · 10-03-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by SPTO

Agreed, It's funny how we get ridiculed for our opinion on CC and he proves us right again. He's a very good regular season pitcher but whether it be his maturity or age he just can't translate it to the playoffs for some reason.

His problem, as it always has been, was that he get too amped up for those games. He is an emotional pitcher, and with CC, when he let's his emotions get to him, he folds.

**Skerik** · 10-03-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by SPTO

Agreed, It's funny how we get ridiculed for our opinion on CC and he proves us right again. He's a very good regular season pitcher but whether it be his maturity or age he just can't translate it to the playoffs for some reason.

Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous that he pitched Cy Young caliber baseball for nearly three months to get the Brewers into the playoffs for the first time in 16 years and then finally folded when he tried to take the mound for his fourth start in a row on three days rest because the Brewers have no other pitchers they trust.

What a loser.

**SPTO** · 10-03-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Skerik

Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous that he pitched Cy Young caliber baseball for nearly three months to get the Brewers into the playoffs for the first time in 16 years and then finally folded when he tried to take the mound for his fourth start in a row on three days rest because the Brewers have no other pitchers they trust.

What a loser.

Overreact much?

I never called CC a loser I just said he's not a playoff pitcher for one reason or another. Also the whole 3 days rest thing is a crutch IMO. CC is a big boy, if he knows he's not going to help the team by pitching on 3 days rest then he would be wise to tell the manager beforehand. CC had NO problems pitching on 3 days rest before so we can't really throw it out there as an excuse.

Now if you had said he's been pitching a ton and well over 100 pitches in each of those starts I'd totally agree. The Brewers ran him ragged toward the end of the year just to get into the playoffs and he ran out of gas. Just don't go saying working on 3 days rest alone is the cause of it.

I'm one of those people that think CC deserves the Cy Young award for his amazing work down the stretch with the Brewers so if he's such a big loser why would I want him to win the Cy Young award huh huh?

**BunnyHardaway** · 10-03-2008, 12:56 PM

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Personally I'm shocked that C.C. laid an egg last night. I know he was bad last year, but I was expecting him to go at least 7 innings. I don't think he's gotten pulled before the 7th inning in any of his Brewers starts, then goes out and gets shelled last night.

Brewers are done.

**OSUFan_88** · 10-03-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by Skerik

Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous that he pitched Cy Young caliber baseball for nearly three months to get the Brewers into the playoffs for the first time in 16 years and then finally folded when he tried to take the mound for his fourth start in a row on three days rest because the Brewers have no other pitchers they trust.

What a loser.

Please.

CC is an amazing regular season pitcher. The fact that him sucking the playoffs is a reoccurring thing. I don't know if it's conditioning or if it's because he is mentally fragile, but he SUCKS in the playoffs.

And now you know. He just screwed your playoff hopes as well.

**SPTO** · 10-03-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by OSUFan_88

And now you know. He just screwed your playoff hopes as well.

You do know Skerik is a Phillies fan right?

**btown12** · 10-03-2008, 01:49 PM

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While I am obviously happy with how everything has gone so far, I've gained a TON of respect for CC with what he has done the past month plus. To see a guy take the ball on 3 days rest 4 times in a row and potentially put his health/career in danger....just months before hitting the free agent market? All for a team he knows he's not going to be with next year? I'm sorry but that's awesome...and refreshing to see.

**TheLetterZ** · 10-03-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by OSUFan_88

Please.

CC is an amazing regular season pitcher. The fact that him sucking the playoffs is a reoccurring thing. I don't know if it's conditioning or if it's because he is mentally fragile, but he SUCKS in the playoffs.

And now you know. He just screwed your playoff hopes as well.

I started making a list of all the things wrong about this post, but then I got bored.

**OSUFan_88** · 10-03-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by TheLetterZ

I started making a list of all the things wrong about this post, but then I got bored.

Please inform me all that is wrong. Maybe it's his 6.14 era in the postseason that will prove me wrong. Maybe it's his 2.11 WHIP in the postseason. Maybe it's his .425 OBP in the postseason.

And no I didn't know that Skerik was a Phillies fan. So he helped his team's chances at winning, he should be happy.

**TheLetterZ** · 10-03-2008, 03:46 PM

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First of all, postseason stats are a joke to begin with because of the small sample size.

Sabathia has started five games in the postseason. FIVE. FiveFiveFiveFiveFiveFive.

C.C. Sabathia has started over 250 games in his major league career. He was freakin' awesome for Milwaukee this season and carried them down the stretch. His start on Sunday afternoon was more important than last night's - again, on three days rest ... again - anyway.

To label him a choker in the postseason is ludicrous. He's pitched five times. If we were talking about someone like Andy Petitte, who has 35 career postseason starts, that's fine. We're talking about five. One of them - his best start - was seven years ago. Last year he got beat twice by the team that won the World Series. Wow, what a choker.

You're right. He's a total bum in the postseason. He can make all those clutch starts all year long, but when the calendar turns over to October, he just can't handle it anymore.

National League Divisional Series: Milwaukee v. Philadelphia

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