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  • bad_philanthropy
    MVP
    • Jul 2005
    • 12176

    #1

    NHL 09 Patch Released (360/PS3) -- Impressions here please

    Changes from the EA boards


    The patch has been released!

    Quick re-cap of what it is covering:

    The jersey on the EASHL side select screen is more visible than
    the team logo. This will make it easier for people to see when jersey
    colors clash

    Deking controls normal when shooting downscreen with "Always Up"
    controls

    Checking has been tuned so you will see less big hits from guys
    that aren't traditionally known for hitting

    Less CPU AI one-timers

    Increased the height of dump ins, for a better dump and chase
    game.

    No more goals from flip dumps

    Better CPU AI logic near offensive blueline so they don't go
    off-sides as much

    CPU goalie will not drag the puck back toward himself in a
    shootout

    We have fixed the goals from outside shots that people are
    scoring. We have reduced shot accuracy when on the rush and when turning
    quickly, and from far out. You will now have to be more conservative
    when shooting on the rush. If you aim all the way to the left or right,
    your shot will go wide a lot more. Try aiming more towards the middle to
    hit the net from outside. This fixes the cross goal where you shoot back
    the other way, and the goal that goes in with the "curve" animation, and
    a few others. There's a reason NHL players don't shoot from outside on
    the rush very often. Dumping or trying to set up is a better play unless
    you have an odd-man situation.

    We reduced the time it took to get control of the goalie by 1/3.

    When line changes are set to auto, and a user changes
    lines/defense manually between whistles, the line/defensive pair you
    asked for will come out (or stay out).

    If you have line changes off in Be a Pro, line change player
    chatter will be turned off.

    When using a defenseman in BAP, BAP player won't get stuck on
    the bench and will be able to call for change

    The EASHL will now go to continuous 5v5 overtime until one team
    scores. This way nobody has to sit out, and you get to decide who wins
    (this is now just like the NHL Play-offs)

    The proper own-goal cut scene will be shown where the player who
    scored on himself is upset.

    All cut scenes should now show players sitting in their
    respective team's bench.

    Increase AI team aggressiveness and the likelihood of them
    getting called for a penalty on an infraction.

    If Vision Control is pressed, you do not throw a hit when in
    front of the attacking net. This helps with rebound shots.
    Increase the likelihood of a penalty if the stick hits the body
    during a stick lift.

    Reduce the accuracy of shots for penalty shots and shootouts.
    Aiming for just inside the post is a lot tougher now.
    Just got prompted for an update. Have been trying things out, the most telling thing to me that I immediately tried out was the dump height, which after my d/l is different than before. Also, puck physics seem quite a bit different in a good way.

    EDIT: It's the patch alright. Checked out the always up controls, dekeing is fixed. Unfortunately shot aim is still not correct.

    EDIT: I don't know what some people were talking about in regards to shot accuracy being a problem. As long as you're shooting from a good platform the accuracy is just as good as before, some shots even seem to be better quality. You just can't be an idiot and shoot while skating full speed on the rush and expect to hot the net. Also whoever said this game was much better on SS post-patch was absolutely right. It's not even close, SS is fantastic after the patch. Haven't had any stupid goals or seen the cpu one-timer crazy. Can't wait to see what QB and some of the others have to say about this.

    Edited by Millennium for front page posting. Good Job, Bad!
    Last edited by Millennium; 11-11-2008, 05:22 PM.
  • bad_philanthropy
    MVP
    • Jul 2005
    • 12176

    #2
    Re: It's here! 360 patch released

    I am kind of concerned about the cpu play on superstar, they seem nowhere near as able to punish you for your mistakes like they were before. The weak goals are gone but the cpu in general seems less able to counterattack and create offense. I might have to increase shot accuracy to help the cpu score.

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    • tabulaRasa
      Pro
      • Aug 2005
      • 641

      #3
      Re: It's here! 360 patch released

      I don´t get it...is this a second patch? I got an update today, but some people claim to have played with the patch for weeks? COnfused as I play NHL09 almost every day.

      Ps3 got it earlier??

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      • Flyermania
        MVP
        • Jun 2004
        • 2182

        #4
        Re: It's here! 360 patch released

        Yup, PS3 got the patch a few weeks back.
        "And by the way, you know, when you're telling these little stories? Here's a good idea - have a POINT. It makes it SO much more interesting for the listener!"

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        • tabulaRasa
          Pro
          • Aug 2005
          • 641

          #5
          Re: It's here! 360 patch released

          Ok, get it. BTW, played a game today (which I won), but the guy I met scored some cheese goals. 2 turn around close to the post and shot high closest post, you know the half wrap around.

          BTW, is there any need to hold down Vision control when you shot? Except on rebounds?

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          • Poro24
            Rookie
            • Sep 2007
            • 77

            #6
            Re: It's here! 360 patch released

            My feelings are quite positive. There actually were penalties and that did make the game feel a lot different than it was before.

            I played my first game with All Star and 8min periods, i was Wild and CPU vas Maple Leafs. Just wow, look at how many penalties i got:

            00:37: Alexander Steen (TOR) Cross Cheking 2min
            05:41: Jiri Tlusty (TOR) Tripping 2min
            09:12: James Sheppard (MIN) Tripping 2min
            11:06: Nick Schultz (MIN) Delay Of Game 2min
            11 Marc-Andre Bergeron (MIN) Delay Of Game 2min
            18:12: Marian Gaborik (MIN) Obstuction - Tripping 2min
            18:42: James Sheppard (MIN) Delay Of Game 2min

            25:44: Nick Schultz (MIN) Slashing 2min
            26 Nikolai Kulemin (TOR) Holding 2min

            43:65: Andrew Brunette (MIN) Obstruction - Tripping 2min

            Game ended with my 2-1 OT win. I must say that i really enjoyed playing, but there were still too many hits and goalies were too good and did not make any mistakes :/.
            Last edited by Poro24; 11-11-2008, 10:10 AM. Reason: typos..
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            • Franchizz
              Rookie
              • Mar 2007
              • 146

              #7
              Re: It's here! 360 patch released

              Well I tried a game just now using the Habs and am hesitate as to whether or not this will be an effective patch. I was pleased to have five powerplays on the default All-Star penalty setting however the computer lacked any offensive output whatsoever. Pittsburgh amassed a resounding 10 shots and spent a mere four minutes and change on the attack in comparison to my nigh 30 shots and fourteen minutes on the offense. The hits were also grossly inaccurate with the Pens having 68 (wow) compared to my low 20 or so.

              If this is any indication the patch seems to have heavily removed offense, instead having the computer favor the dump and chase gameplay. This is an improvement in theory, yet in practice it forces us to mimic the AI's new style otherwise you can easily dominate them in everything beyond goals. The goalies now can stop shots extremely more effectively then ever before.

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              • marino13
                D*lph*ns m*k* m* cry
                • Jul 2002
                • 1046

                #8
                Re: It's here! 360 patch released

                I am very happy with the patch, but people will have to play on superstar with shot accuracy at least 4 to have the cpu get some goals.

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                • mercalnd
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 4267

                  #9
                  Re: It's here! 360 patch released

                  Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
                  I am kind of concerned about the cpu play on superstar, they seem nowhere near as able to punish you for your mistakes like they were before. The weak goals are gone but the cpu in general seems less able to counterattack and create offense. I might have to increase shot accuracy to help the cpu score.
                  I had a few good games on default Superstar back when I got the patch (PS3) and was a little worried that it might get too easy but that went away after 5 games or so when the CPU came back to its old ways, cheap goals and all (although there are fewer cheap goals than there used to be). My guess is you are just currently in a good streak.

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                  • nyisles16
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 8352

                    #10
                    Re: It's here! 360 patch released

                    Must say I am liking the patch. In a "play now" game, I was playing against Philly (I was the Islanders of course). Each team had at least 5 power plays.

                    I managed to score two rather sweet goals -- one where I picked up a loose puck, drove to the net, and when Biron went down to cut off the bottom part of the net, I simply parked it right over him. The other goal I slapped past him from the right circle just inside the near post.

                    This was on All-Star level..

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                    • Qb
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 8818

                      #11
                      Re: It's here! 360 patch released

                      Great news, indeed. I was out of town for a few days to see Metallica in Columbus and was hoping to see this when I finally got around to checking in at OS. Can anyone confirm if the line changes were fixed (ie, separate off/def lines during stoppages)???

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                      • Icelandair
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 126

                        #12
                        Re: It's here! 360 patch released

                        Changes from the EA boards


                        The patch has been released!

                        Quick re-cap of what it is covering:

                        The jersey on the EASHL side select screen is more visible than
                        the team logo. This will make it easier for people to see when jersey
                        colors clash

                        Deking controls normal when shooting downscreen with "Always Up"
                        controls

                        Checking has been tuned so you will see less big hits from guys
                        that aren't traditionally known for hitting

                        Less CPU AI one-timers

                        Increased the height of dump ins, for a better dump and chase
                        game.

                        No more goals from flip dumps

                        Better CPU AI logic near offensive blueline so they don't go
                        off-sides as much

                        CPU goalie will not drag the puck back toward himself in a
                        shootout

                        We have fixed the goals from outside shots that people are
                        scoring. We have reduced shot accuracy when on the rush and when turning
                        quickly, and from far out. You will now have to be more conservative
                        when shooting on the rush. If you aim all the way to the left or right,
                        your shot will go wide a lot more. Try aiming more towards the middle to
                        hit the net from outside. This fixes the cross goal where you shoot back
                        the other way, and the goal that goes in with the "curve" animation, and
                        a few others. There's a reason NHL players don't shoot from outside on
                        the rush very often. Dumping or trying to set up is a better play unless
                        you have an odd-man situation.

                        We reduced the time it took to get control of the goalie by 1/3.

                        When line changes are set to auto, and a user changes
                        lines/defense manually between whistles, the line/defensive pair you
                        asked for will come out (or stay out).

                        If you have line changes off in Be a Pro, line change player
                        chatter will be turned off.

                        When using a defenseman in BAP, BAP player won't get stuck on
                        the bench and will be able to call for change

                        The EASHL will now go to continuous 5v5 overtime until one team
                        scores. This way nobody has to sit out, and you get to decide who wins
                        (this is now just like the NHL Play-offs)

                        The proper own-goal cut scene will be shown where the player who
                        scored on himself is upset.

                        All cut scenes should now show players sitting in their
                        respective team's bench.

                        Increase AI team aggressiveness and the likelihood of them
                        getting called for a penalty on an infraction.

                        If Vision Control is pressed, you do not throw a hit when in
                        front of the attacking net. This helps with rebound shots.
                        Increase the likelihood of a penalty if the stick hits the body
                        during a stick lift.

                        Reduce the accuracy of shots for penalty shots and shootouts.
                        Aiming for just inside the post is a lot tougher now.

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                        • bukktown
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 3261

                          #13
                          Re: It's here! 360 patch released

                          Can anyone comment about how well it plays online now. Is it more of a dump and chase game now with the improved flip dump?

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                          • mudtiger
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3225

                            #14
                            Re: It's here! 360 patch released

                            Originally posted by Qb
                            Great news, indeed. I was out of town for a few days to see Metallica in Columbus and was hoping to see this when I finally got around to checking in at OS. Can anyone confirm if the line changes were fixed (ie, separate off/def lines during stoppages)???
                            Yes, that's fixed. You can put out line 1 on offense and line 2 or 3 on defense during play stoppages.

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                            • Papa Burgundy
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 123

                              #15
                              Re: It's here! 360 patch released

                              Anyone else not really notice a difference after playing a game? I only had 2 power plays playing on 8 minute periods with Mudtiger's all star sliders. Goalies still seem to be flopping around a lot. Also I was able to throw huge hits still with guys like Toews and Kane. Almost makes me think I didn't install it properly or something.
                              You stay classy, Operation Sports.

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