MLB Baseball Community Press Release

[DodgerFanatic2K3]

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Are you kidding me?
The accuracy of the batting & pitching animations have been one of my main concerns for years now. Chris & the rest of the Sony mocap team have done a pretty great job in the past, but its time for them to take it to another level. I'm confident that 09 will be a step in the right direction.... no worries here.

Good.... hopefully you guys can also pitch the idea to totally scrap the way that difficulty levels are constructed in this game

They need to take a page from ASB and the 2K series and totally re-write the code to make the difficulty level setting only effect the computers A.I. and not have anything to do with the "batting style" your comfortable using

I'm confident that this and other glaring issues like

* No real full control manual fielding

* Non or rare triggering catch animations when fielders are moving sideways

* Ability to have another fielder pick up the ball after it's deflected off your glove

* Rarely triggered head first or hook slides at home plate in critical situations when using auto base running

will all be addressed and fixed for MLB '10

[Crash Davis]

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Guys,

I wouldn't expect much from the program this year. I can guarantee you everything in the game is pretty much set at this point and the work is being done.

It seems as though this comment comes up every year with almost any sports game, I get that maybe in January perhaps this would be true, but I mean I saw uniform changes last year be fixed as late as LATE january for the show, (game came out late Febuary) Pared I dig your posts youre a smart guy and I mean no disrespect its just that it seems false to assume the games all but done at this point.

[GTjeff519]

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so what exactly is the difference between this and listing bugs etc. in the forum, seems to me if scea comes here and reads the forums they see all this anyways.

i have to agree with sask3m on this.
also, the people that have been selected have a great feel for the game. they have actively participated in making a great game even better. ie. rosters, fixes, work arounds, caps, etc.
i'm sure they have a good idea about what needs to be fixed/improved and lets hope their voices are heard.

[nemesis04]

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i have to agree with sask3m on this.
also, the people that have been selected have a great feel for the game. they have actively participated in making a great game even better. ie. rosters, fixes, work arounds, caps, etc.
i'm sure they have a good idea about what needs to be fixed/improved and lets hope their voices are heard.

From what I understand so far, SCEA has something different in store for us than your typical Community program where feedback is only the main goal. As far as what exactly it is, we do not know yet! Stay tuned!

[capa]

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I don't get it yet. Since we had the ear of the SCEA folks immediately before and after this year's game dropped, and hundreds of threads were opened where all kinds of requests were made and bugs identified, I would hope those things got addressed for this coming year's game. Or at least the most glaring and severe things. There is 9 months worth of feedback here...on this board...in these threads.

How can anyone provide any valid feedback until this year's game drops and gets put through the paces? And that really won't be until March/April I would suspect. We won't know what to request and address until we see what has and has not been fixed.

I love the fact that developers look for assitance and feedback, but March of 2010 is too far away for me to get excited about anything. I am more concerned with what the game plays like in 4 months.

Not intending to be a downer, but I don't see a huge value-add for this in the foreseaable future.

C

[sask3m]

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From what I understand so far, SCEA has something different in store for us than your typical Community program where feedback is only the main goal. As far as what exactly it is, we do not know yet! Stay tuned!

hopefully they send you guys an early demo in dec., a week or so with you guys testing would be plenty of time to find most bugs or gameplay elements that might need some fine tuning.

[mlblover15]

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well i just want to say that im shocked to be on the list of leaders. i honestly would have never expected myself to be included on said list. It is a deep honor to have been named to this team of gamers that they have given us.

i know my concerns for the game are a totally different than what most of you are looking at, but ive never been too critical of stances and windups etc, due to not really memorizing each players stance and windup, however i know and understand where a great many of you feel that is more important than ANYTHING that i have listed on here and im def NOT saying that any is more important than the other cause for each of us our own concerns are impoortant due to our own passions for the game.

i would never allow my own desires for this game to outwieigh the communities. we are a family here and have to work together and do the best for the over all development of the game as a whole.

now would we all like to see everytihng we have ever asked, prayed and dreamed for, to be put in this game in one year??? well of course we would, but as i have said over and over in the past, game coding is like walkling through a mine field.

you have no idea how adding part B will affect A and on down the line. thus the no addiiton of player collision dection. it screwed up a totally different part of the game which if memory serves from pm with one of the team a while ago that was MUCH more important that having player collision dection...

we are all here for the same reasons, those being our absolute love, and passion for both the real life game of baseball and our video game of it.

I trust that not just the assigned leaders here at our forum but as a whole that we as a community will do everything we can and within our limited power to do to keep improving and polishing this great game of ours that sony has put out each and every year. will we ever be completely satisfied with it any year no matter what is implamented?? probably not because there will always be one of us that has something more to add to the frey of ideas and that is never a bad thing.

so here is to whatever game will be coming out for 09' and to our collective efforts as a community to make 2010 game even better than that by leaps and bounds.

[Russell_SCEA]

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so what exactly is the difference between this and listing bugs etc. in the forum, seems to me if scea comes here and reads the forums they see all this anyways.

Great question let me get settled in this morning and I will be happy to explain.

[Pared]

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It seems as though this comment comes up every year with almost any sports game, I get that maybe in January perhaps this would be true, but I mean I saw uniform changes last year be fixed as late as LATE january for the show, (game came out late Febuary) Pared I dig your posts youre a smart guy and I mean no disrespect its just that it seems false to assume the games all but done at this point.

I'm not assuming without reason. But everyone will believe what they want.

[Pared]

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well i just want to say that im shocked to be on the list of leaders. i honestly would have never expected myself to be included on said list. It is a deep honor to have been named to this team of gamers that they have given us.

i know my concerns for the game are a totally different than what most of you are looking at, but ive never been too critical of stances and windups etc, due to not really memorizing each players stance and windup, however i know and understand where a great many of you feel that is more important than ANYTHING that i have listed on here and im def NOT saying that any is more important than the other cause for each of us our own concerns are impoortant due to our own passions for the game.

i would never allow my own desires for this game to outwieigh the communities. we are a family here and have to work together and do the best for the over all development of the game as a whole.

now would we all like to see everytihng we have ever asked, prayed and dreamed for, to be put in this game in one year??? well of course we would, but as i have said over and over in the past, game coding is like walkling through a mine field.

you have no idea how adding part B will affect A and on down the line. thus the no addiiton of player collision dection. it screwed up a totally different part of the game which if memory serves from pm with one of the team a while ago that was MUCH more important that having player collision dection...

we are all here for the same reasons, those being our absolute love, and passion for both the real life game of baseball and our video game of it.

I trust that not just the assigned leaders here at our forum but as a whole that we as a community will do everything we can and within our limited power to do to keep improving and polishing this great game of ours that sony has put out each and every year. will we ever be completely satisfied with it any year no matter what is implamented?? probably not because there will always be one of us that has something more to add to the frey of ideas and that is never a bad thing.

so here is to whatever game will be coming out for 09' and to our collective efforts as a community to make 2010 game even better than that by leaps and bounds.

Great post.

Many times people here have asked for more involvement in a game they love. Here is your opportunity. All we need to do is our part and see where it goes from there.

[capa]

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Again, I don't see how this is different than the wishlist, bugs/issues, requests threads that have been posted here for 9 months. I am looking forward to Russell's reply on how this is different.

But again, am pretty darn sure there is nothing that can be done to the 2009 game based on dev/test/release cycles.

C

[Russell_SCEA]

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How can anyone provide any valid feedback until this year's game drops and gets put through the paces? And that really won't be until March/April I would suspect. We won't know what to request and address until we see what has and has not been fixed.

As we stated in the original doc. this initiative isn't just about feedback. It's a major component, but again that isn't the end all be all to the program. Which is a major reason why we choose to tell the community about our plans early. You can't build the second story of house without a foundation or before you build the first floor can you?

Not intending to be a downer, but I don't see a huge value-add for this in the foreseeable future.

Understandable hopefully we can change how you feel in the next couple of months.

[Russell_SCEA]

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Again, I don't see how this is different than the wishlist, bugs/issues, requests threads that have been posted here for 9 months. I am looking forward to Russell's reply on how this is different.

Let me be realistic and frank here wish lists are a good idea in theory, however they always lack direction, planning, prioritizing and cohesiveness.

Which is why there usefulness in there current state is very limited. This is a subject Kolbe, Chris, and myself have talked about over the past couple of months in detail.

Think of it like this there is a guy standing on top of a car in a crowded parking lot. The parking lot has hundreds of people all screaming at the top of their lungs trying to get this one guys attention. All the people in parking lot mean well, however with everyone screaming at the same time very little is heard.

The sad thing is the man standing on top of the car and the crowd want to exact same thing. That's how most wish lists operate they are full with really great ideas, comments, and suggestions. However due to their lack of structure and unification most of the great feedback is lost. Which is a microcosm of most developer community relationships.

Only a small portion of it ever reaches the ears of those who can do something about it. Chris, Kolbe, Brian and others have done a tremendous job coming to boards and interaction with you all. Its a testament to the teams passion for the game and its shows they care about the community.

What if everyone decided to make concessions for the greater good of the group? Think of how much more useful the relationship would be? Think of how many more people could be heard if everyone decided to speak in once voice instead of many?

If this was attainable you would have an entity that is able to place its finger on the heartbeat of the crowd in the parking lot. That crowd is us the community and what we are trying to do is just that.

I guarantee you if the end result is one loud voice instead of many voices that aren't as clear to hear everyone will benefit heavily from the increased communication and unity.

We aren't going to get there in a week or a month, but we will get there. I can't sit here and tell you I have all the answers or where we will be in six months because I don't know. However I think we know some of the questions that needs to be asked.

Right now there is a bridge between the development studio and the community which is great. A lot of studios don't have any bridge to speak off. In essence we are trying to build a bigger bridge

[rudyjuly2]

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The list of guys picked to represent OS are outstanding. Have fun guys and thanks SCEA for doing this.

[capa]

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Russell,

I am actually in your corner and hope you can pull it off.

That being said, Kolbe, Chris, et al were here for us since January and have done a great job. They knew back in March/April what the biggest complaints were and largest game issues/bugs, and I can only hope those items did not get lost in the din, as many of them came from exactly the same people you have selected to be part of the new community.

That's my fear...that what we already posted and made clear...crystal clear, 9 months ago, will now be fodder for maybe the 2010 release. I believe that probably won't be true, but that's what I fear - marketing type inclusions at the expense of realism, customization, and bug fixes.

C