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  • nogster
    MVP
    • Mar 2006
    • 3831

    #1

    O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

    portlandblazer and nogster are the O.S outsiders.


    ive just uploaded the newest version of our rosters guys.
    simply titled: O.S outsiders

    its obviously a post patch roster.
    so all the changes i made in my tendency thread are in it, the game stats will now be back on point. for any of you guys using older outsider rosters with the patch, the simmed stats will be off.
    this roster fixes that.

    ive also globally edited the strength attribute for all players.
    to try and get a better balance with the patched post game, where u can hardly back down anyone and we were seeing centers being pushed away from teh basket by swingmen..
    hopefully this counter balances it somewhat. i didnt drastically change them though. as i dont want to fundamentally change up the game. and the results will be minimal but at least ive given the good post players a fighting chance and increased the strength discrepency between bigs and smalls.

    thats about it really..
    obviously ive made some subtle changes to certain players to stay up to date.
    harris has recieved a nice rating boost.

    portlandblazer will probably release an update on this some time. and he will release an offline transfer file as well for those that dont have 2kshare.
    so for those guys. just be patient.
    for the rest of u, go get it!

    O.S outsiders

    my gamertag: nogman7
  • 2kjunkie
    Rookie
    • Jan 2008
    • 308

    #2
    Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

    You guys are simply the best.

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    • GameOver
      Rookie
      • Apr 2007
      • 229

      #3
      Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

      Originally posted by nogster
      .

      portlandblazer will probably release an update on this some time. and he will release an offline transfer file as well for those that

      good looking out for us none xbox live/2kshare nba 2k9 players

      i know some time some of us are a pain and dont say it enough but thanks alot appreciate all your hard work. cant wait to start my kings association since im picking a bad team to use to make better

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      • gottibino
        "I am Tiger Woods"
        • Oct 2004
        • 1589

        #4
        Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

        What else, besides strength & the stuff u mentioned, did u change? I'm currently using v6 w/ my own changes (mainly tomba's speed edits & iso assignments, my raised & lowered players potential & updated contracts.)
        I'm asking because I really don't want to go thru & edit all this AGAIN cause of the post-patch ridiculousness, thanks 2k!
        Also, did u change sliders at all cause there's a lot of talk going around about reverse slider effects.
        psn: Kobe_8Mamba_24

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        • nogster
          MVP
          • Mar 2006
          • 3831

          #5
          Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

          as well as changing up the strength attribute for the players,
          i changed the ratings of a few players.. harris, roy, rose, granger to name a few.
          all the tendenciy and coach profile changes i post in my stickied thread.
          i changed up the rotations a little. ie: the thunder have wilcox and westbrook starting now, and the twolves have collins starting at C. etc..

          if u keep up to date with the tendency edits i post, u dont really need to start all over again..
          i understand first hand how annoying and time consuming that is, so just stick with what you use now if u like.
          i can give u the general scale i used in globally editing the strength attributes.
          it really wont make much difference though. 2k went so far in the extreme that it almost makes the attribute redundant. well not redundant. but no where near effective enough...the discrepency between offense and defense player must be huge for you to be able to backdown. and also. i didnt want to change up the scale too much as strength also contributes to other intangibles on the court i believe...like driving the lane and attacking the basket and not getting pushed off your direction and/or being able to continue flowing through with a shot if contact is made for and 1's. that sort of thing.

          anyways..
          PG.. nearly all pgs are in the 50's.. the exceptions are for example, billups [65] bdavis [67] etc, the bigger stronger pgs that utilize the post in reality when they are faced with weaker opponents. they are 65 and under.

          SG. i believe i put all sgs under 70. kobe and wade are 70. i think all others are under. [not that it will make much difference..sigh..]

          SF.. most swingmen are generally under 70. exceptions are like lebron [80], maggette [75], anthony [72], the guys that are powerful and are hard to contain when attacking the basket. as well as some of the bigger SFs with known post games.

          PF. the finnesse guys that are not known as post defenders and/or dont really post up are in the 70s. the notable low post guys, kg for instance i have had to raise to the high 80s even 90s to give them a fighting chance. as these guys are both good at post off and def. [what do those attributes do now?..sigh. specifically what does post D do? it seems to have little use with strength being the primary hold ground/backdown attribute]

          C. same as pf. although generally the bigger and heavier they are. the stronger i made them. generally.
          Last edited by nogster; 12-04-2008, 04:45 PM.

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          • 2kjunkie
            Rookie
            • Jan 2008
            • 308

            #6
            Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

            hey nog, thanks again for the new roster but did you also made any adjustments to your sliders? If so could you please post in your sliders thread or upload to 2kShare.

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            • gottibino
              "I am Tiger Woods"
              • Oct 2004
              • 1589

              #7
              Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

              Originally posted by nogster
              as well as changing up the strength attribute for the players,
              i changed the ratings of a few players.. harris, roy, rose, granger to name a few.
              all the tendenciy and coach profile changes i post in my stickied thread.
              i changed up the rotations a little. ie: the thunder have wilcox and westbrook starting now, and the twolves have collins starting at C. etc..

              if u keep up to date with the tendency edits i post, u dont really need to start all over again..
              i understand first hand how annoying and time consuming that is, so just stick with what you use now if u like.
              i can give u the general scale i used in globally editing the strength attributes.
              it really wont make much difference though. 2k went so far in the extreme that it almost makes the attribute redundant. well not redundant. but no where near effective enough...the discrepency between offense and defense player must be huge for you to be able to backdown. and also. i didnt want to change up the scale too much as strength also contributes to other intangibles on the court i believe...like driving the lane and attacking the basket and not getting pushed off your direction and/or being able to continue flowing through with a shot if contact is made for and 1's. that sort of thing.

              anyways..
              PG.. nearly all pgs are in the 50's.. the exceptions are for example, billups [65] bdavis [67] etc, the bigger stronger pgs that utilize the post in reality when they are faced with weaker opponents. they are 65 and under.

              SG. i believe i put all sgs under 70. kobe and wade are 70. i think all others are under. [not that it will make much difference..sigh..]

              SF.. most swingmen are generally under 70. exceptions are like lebron [80], maggette [75], anthony [72], the guys that are powerful and are hard to contain when attacking the basket. as well as some of the bigger SFs with known post games.

              PF. the finnesse guys that are not known as post defenders and/or dont really post up are in the 70s. the notable low post guys, kg for instance i have had to raise to the high 80s even 90s to give them a fighting chance. as these guys are both good at post off and def. [what do those attributes do now?..sigh. specifically what does post D do? it seems to have little use with strength being the primary hold ground/backdown attribute]

              C. same as pf. although generally the bigger and heavier they are. the stronger i made them. generally.
              THANKS NOG, U R THE Greatest!!! As always greatly appreciated!
              psn: Kobe_8Mamba_24

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              • WDaniel
                Rookie
                • Jul 2002
                • 418

                #8
                Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

                Which sliders should we use with these? Thanks.

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                • nogster
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 3831

                  #9
                  Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

                  any sliders you want or currently use..
                  there is no specific slider set.
                  im currently working on a post patch version of my own sliders.

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                  • WDaniel
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 418

                    #10
                    Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

                    Great to know. Thanks!

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                    • one way
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 26

                      #11
                      Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

                      kk if somebody can aswer me what does help D do if i turn it all the way down sombody please explain sorry for posting this question here thanks

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                      • wrestlinggod1
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 2490

                        #12
                        Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

                        any love for the Heat nog?
                        (MY HUNDREDTH POST)
                        #HeatNation
                        #HeatLifer

                        Go MIAMI Teams!!

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                        • nogster
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 3831

                          #13
                          Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

                          love for the heat?
                          i got love for the nba!
                          is that good enough? :wink:

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                          • wrestlinggod1
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 2490

                            #14
                            Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

                            lol, ok ur right
                            #HeatNation
                            #HeatLifer

                            Go MIAMI Teams!!

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                            • RedmanR
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2120

                              #15
                              Re: O.S outsiders [post patch edition]!!!

                              Thanks for the info concerning the .z36(transfer kit) users Nogster.

                              I'm as patient as a deathrow inmate
                              Where they DO that? ? ?

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