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  • armi5718
    Rookie
    • Sep 2008
    • 281

    #1

    Under-Rated Players

    I can't remember if another thread like this has been started or not so I'm just going to go ahead and write this new one up. Who are the under-rated players in NHL 09? <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>
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    I'm sure everyone has their own gripe about a fan favourite for their team who isn't rated the way they should be. I am going to start off rather audaciously by saying that Alex Ovechkin IS under-rated in NHL 09. <o></o>
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    I was doing my own "grudge match" comparison between Crosby and Ovy and discovered a few glaring problems in their ratings (provided by IGN's ratings provided at the release of the game) First of all, Ovechkin's wrist shot is far deadlier than a 90 rating. The amount of times that Ovy scores off of an unscreened wrister from the circles should be evidence enough of a higher rating in real life. The fact that Ovy has the exact same wrist shot ratings as Dany Heatly is really nasty. Heatly has an amazing shot, but Scott Burnside and Pierre LeBrun (writers for ESPN) said it themselves "Right now there is no better sharpshooter in the NHL than Alex Ovechkin. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/preview2008/columns/story?id=3631769" For the record, sharpshooters shoot with power and accuracy, Dany Heatly and Ovechkin have the same accuracy and shot power ratings for wristers, that is garbage.<o></o>
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    Secondly, let’s talk about speed. Like I said earlier, I compared Ovy and Crosby's ratings head to head in NHL 09 to figure out why Crosby was rated two points higher than Ovechkin in game. I found that Crosby's speed is listed at 92 and Ovechkin's at 91. During the 2007 All-Star weekend, ESPN asked the players who were attending "Who is the fastest skater in the NHL?" Of course the resounding answer was Gaborik who actually won the speed competition, but interestingly enough more of a percentage of the players attending the game (these are the players who played in the All-Star game and can be considered the highest authority outside of actually numbers that could attest to the speed of players) chose Alexander Ovechkin over Sidney Crosby. An equal portion of the players chose Marian Hossa as well as Alexander Ovechkin (Hossa is rated at a 92 speed rating) which further leads a gamer to believe that Ovechkin is in fact under-rated. <o></o>
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    I would go on, but I am being forced out of this shop by my girlfriend. So please, continue this thread and let me and the rest of us NHL 09 gamers know who is under-rated so that maybe we as players could adjust stats to make a more realistic game.<o></o>
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  • DFA
    Rookie
    • Nov 2008
    • 13

    #2
    Re: Under-Rated Players

    unreadable.

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    • Codymo32791
      Rookie
      • Jul 2008
      • 29

      #3
      Re: Under-Rated Players

      I can already tell, that You're a OVY fan.

      Players that are underated:

      Sam Gagner
      Derrick Brassard
      Jason Chimera
      Mikku Koivu
      Andrew Burnette

      The list go's on.

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      • star king3
        Banned
        • Jul 2008
        • 2190

        #4
        Re: Under-Rated Players

        Devin Setoguchi
        Mike Lundin
        up Grabners potential
        and others

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        • tyler289
          MVP
          • Jul 2006
          • 2933

          #5
          Re: Under-Rated Players

          Alexander Semin is pretty underrated. His deking and shooting are both better than Ovechkin's.

          Brent Johnson is like a 76 overall but is actually the #1 goaltender. Like top 10 in the league so far this season, stats-wise.

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          • LanteriX
            MVP
            • Feb 2004
            • 1624

            #6
            Re: Under-Rated Players

            For the Bruins:
            Tim Thomas
            Milan Lucic
            Matt Hunwick

            Another one that stood out was Erik Ersberg on LA. I believe he's rated a 60 something.

            I'm sure there are others but I'm not currently looking at the game.

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            • RealmK
              Banned
              • Sep 2003
              • 4198

              #7
              Re: Under-Rated Players

              Originally posted by LanteriX
              For the Bruins:
              Tim Thomas
              Milan Lucic
              Matt Hunwick

              Another one that stood out was Erik Ersberg on LA. I believe he's rated a 60 something.

              I'm sure there are others but I'm not currently looking at the game.
              I was just coming to post about Tim Thomas being under rated. Whats actually odd to me about 09, and the same thing was true in 08, Thomas plays better than Fernandez, yet is usually rated lower. At least thats been the case in my Bruins dynasties so far the last couple retail builds. You would think after the great season Timmy had last year, and that he was adjusted past 80 in one of 08's roster updates, that he wouldn't be back rated as a 79 or 78 like he is currently in 09. He is that consistant, and really one of those guys that can keep a team in games night after night, honestly I think he's overall a better goalie than Manny is to be completely honest.

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              • LanteriX
                MVP
                • Feb 2004
                • 1624

                #8
                Re: Under-Rated Players

                Well, the roster update bumped Thomas up to an 84. That's fair enough.

                No love for Hunwick though. He's still a 70 despite the fact that he's got a +/- of 14 with 3 goals and 11 assists and that he's been playing on our 2nd defensive line for most of the season.

                Lucic also didn't get any love which is kind a of joke. He still has 60 for his shot accuracies and his awareness is too low. The guy's been playing on the first line all season yet he has a lower overall rating than Kobasew, Nokelainen, Wheeler, Axelsson.

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                • masterkembo
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 499

                  #9
                  Re: Under-Rated Players

                  Just picked this game up last week and the first thing I thought was that....

                  The entire Maple Leafs team is OVERRATED.

                  Considering talent wise, they're one of the worst teams in the NHL this year, EA has them as a team rated pretty high.

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                  • xcire04
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3

                    #10
                    Re: Under-Rated Players

                    I think Hunwick should be at least a 75-77...Lucic should be a little better...79 maybe? I always bump Thomas & Savard because those are the two that stick out to me the most!

                    Also, did any B's fans see the 81 overall Kirk Mcdonald? Who the hell is this guy and why is his OVR so high!!

                    Matt Lashoff 79...to high as well!

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                    • Qb
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 8798

                      #11
                      Re: Under-Rated Players

                      Originally posted by xcire04
                      Also, did any B's fans see the 81 overall Kirk Mcdonald? Who the hell is this guy and why is his OVR so high!!

                      Matt Lashoff 79...to high as well!
                      I noticed MacDonald's weird over-rating as well (and Lashoff to a lesser degree, at least he has some pedigree). There are a few other guys in the AHL with high 70s to 80 ratings -- Chad Wiseman (79?) and Dwight Helminen (77) come to mind. The only thing I can think of is that they were moved over from the Euro leagues (I know Helminen was overseas last season) and not re-rated.

                      If their Poise ratings are dropped from 80+ to the standard rookie/AHL rating of 70 or below, that should knock 3-4 points off of the overall. But MacDonald's numbers are just plain silly -- 95 for balance & checking, if I remember correctly...

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                      • star king3
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 2190

                        #12
                        Re: Under-Rated Players

                        anyone wanna make an editing guide?

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                        • Ruffy
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1516

                          #13
                          Re: Under-Rated Players

                          In my opinion almost every goalie is under-rated. I think every starting NHL goalie should be an 80 at least. Then work form there.

                          Glad they bumped some stats with the roster update too....I enjoy using LA and Boston.

                          Boston was a team I won alot with in 08, not sure why but the team was just fast and Chara is a beast.

                          I'll agree about the shot ratings as the OP has stated.

                          I miss like in back of one of the NHL's on the genesis, it may have been 96 where guys who had big shots where feared.

                          McInnis big blast and most notably Sakic's wrist shot.

                          The next big move in this game is to make the stars the stars and the scrubs the scrubs and the grinders the grinders...then we will start to have a more complete game.
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                          • wisdom less13
                            Pro
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 992

                            #14
                            Re: Under-Rated Players

                            even though his overall is fairly high i do damage with jordan staal with the pens. dude usually has two points for me a game
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                            • Y2JDT89
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 30

                              #15
                              Re: Under-Rated Players

                              Patrick Sharp. So underrated it's not even funny.

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