Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

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  • Jistic
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 16405

    #16
    Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

    Of course. These "busters" are now 3-1 in these games. Reason #20403034583405348 that we need a playoff. Over rated teams get exposed and we decide it on the field.
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    • Cebby
      Banned
      • Apr 2005
      • 22327

      #17
      Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

      Originally posted by olliethebum85
      This is 100Xs better than what Boise did. Boise only beat 1 end year ranked team and had to use gadget plays to do it.
      Boise pounded a 10 win Oregon St team that beat USC.

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      • Chip Douglass
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2005
        • 12256

        #18
        Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

        Originally posted by Cebby
        I don't really agree with that. Both were equally not outstanding, but still solid teams.
        Did '06 Boise also have wins over a team that was one win away from the Rose Bowl and an 11 win team?

        Was '06 Oklahoma also the undefeated #1 team in the country at a certain point?
        I write things on the Internet.

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        • MassNole
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 18848

          #19
          Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

          They played a legit schedule, @ Michigan, vs. Oregon State, then took out TCU, BYU, and now Alabama. There is no way the AP cannot reward them. In fact, I will not recognize the winner of the BCS Championship game as a MNC.

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          • SuperBowlNachos
            All Star
            • Jul 2004
            • 10218

            #20
            Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

            Originally posted by Cebby
            Boise pounded a 10 win Oregon St team that beat USC.
            A 10-4 oregon state team who did end #25, my mistake. Still FOUR losses.

            Nothing close to what Utah accomplished

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            • Cebby
              Banned
              • Apr 2005
              • 22327

              #21
              Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

              Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
              Did '06 Boise also have wins over a team that was one win away from the Rose Bowl and an 11 win team?
              Yes.

              Was '06 Oklahoma also the undefeated #1 team in the country at a certain point?
              Had the Oregon fiasco not occurred, they would have been ranked in the same place as Alabama. As it is, they finished #11, and Alabama will finish 7-9.

              Nothing close to what Utah accomplished
              Against the 1A opponents, Utah's opponents' win % is better by .003. Boise outscored their 1A opponents by 2 more points on the year.

              They essentially have the exact same results.
              Last edited by Cebby; 01-03-2009, 12:05 AM.

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              • Hammerhunker
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 3009

                #22
                Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                I think they deserve to play next week in a "plus three" against Florida/Oklahoma winner.

                In reality, watching this team play the swarming defense that they did and move the ball easily against a so-called vaunted SEC team, hard not to reward them in some way.

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                • fsquid
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 17635

                  #23
                  Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                  I've got a feeling voters will give Utah the "Aw, aren't they cute whoever they are" treatment instead of serious consideration. Utes win convincingly against a national power to go undefeated, but unfortunately this is the plateau for non-BCS teams.

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                  • MassNole
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 18848

                    #24
                    Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                    In the MWC, we have who I think is #1. TCU is a Top 10 team, BYU is borderline Top 25 team. They won a game @ Michigan, yes Michigan sucked but a win at the Big House means something. They beat Oregon State, who when fully healthy beat USC, that is the comparison, not the OSU team at the end of the season who was missing their best players vs. Oregon. That is as legit a schedule as Florida as Oklahoma played. This team has to be the National Champions.

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                    • auburntigersfan
                      Release the Kirchen
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 4737

                      #25
                      Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                      They deserve it because they were undefeated and beat a one loss team.

                      They beat a one loss BCS Conference team, that's what UF and OU are. They definitely deserve it.
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                      • Gibbz
                        All Star
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 8240

                        #26
                        Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                        I'm a long-time Gator fan, and I believe regardless of what happens on Thursday, Utah should be the sole national champion.

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                        • Cebby
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 22327

                          #27
                          Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                          Originally posted by MassNole
                          That is as legit a schedule as Florida as Oklahoma played.
                          The 1A opponents' winning % and scoring margins:

                          Utah: .517 and 240 (including the bowl)
                          Florida: .621 and 369 (including SECCG)
                          OU: .636 and 328 (including BigXIICG)

                          Those are some pretty big gaps

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                          • loganone
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 226

                            #28
                            Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                            Too bad Utah chickened out of a home game against Texas. If they had won that they would have been in the title game at least.

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                            • SlimKibbles
                              Supporter
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 7276

                              #29
                              Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                              Originally posted by loganone
                              Too bad Utah chickened out of a home game against Texas. If they had won that they would have been in the title game at least.
                              When did this chickening out happen?
                              MLB: Cincinnati Reds
                              NFL: Cincinnati Bengals
                              NCAA Hoops: Xavier Musketeers
                              NCAA Football: Miami Hurricanes
                              NHL: Calgary Flames

                              "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke

                              "The wisest men follow their own direction." - Euripides

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                              • Hammerhunker
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 3009

                                #30
                                Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                                Originally posted by Cebby
                                The 1A opponents' winning % and scoring margins:

                                Utah: .517 and 240 (including the bowl)
                                Florida: .621 and 369 (including SECCG)
                                OU: .636 and 328 (including BigXIICG)

                                Those are some pretty big gaps
                                Great stats. Please clarify, the scoring margin is points scored-points given up? Just wanted to make sure.

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