Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

[Travis40]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Was '06 Oklahoma also the undefeated #1 team in the country at a certain point?

No, they would've been, but they were screwed by Oregon before they had the chance.

OU started at #5, beat UAB in the season opener 24-17, dropped to #10, beat a good Washington team 37-20, then the Oregon game...

And even if the BCS put Utah at #1 before the BCS Selection, the BCS Championship would've been #1 Utah vs. #2 Oklahoma. Sure, I know it's "fair", but it's not as appealing as Florida vs. Oklahoma. Utah is good, but they're not as good as USC, Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma.

The main argument for Utah is TCU. Utah beat TCU 13-10, while OU beat TCU 35-10.

at #24 Michigan by 2
vs. Oregon State by 3
vs. #11 TCU by 3
vs. #14 BYU by 24
vs. #4 Alabama by 14

and it doesn't help Utah that they beat Weber State by only 16.


UF's big wins:
vs. #3 LSU by 30
vs. #8 Georgia by 39
vs. #23 South Carolina by 50
at #24 Florida State by 30
vs. #1 Alabama by 11



OU's big wins:
vs. #23 TCU by 25
vs. #16 Kansas by 14
vs. #2 Texas Tech by 44
at # 12 Oklahoma State by 20
vs. #17 Missouri by 41



When you total the point differential up

Utah - 46
Florida - 160
Oklahoma - 144

This shows how the three teams play in big games. Utah seems to struggle in their big games, therefore making them prone to blowout if they were to play Oklahoma or Florida in the National Championship.

Here's another reason why Utah shouldn't be in the National Championship, and shouldn't even be in a discussion to why they should be in the Title Game.

Non Conference Schedule (FCS teams not included)

Utah:
at (3-9) Michigan by 3
vs. (3-9) Utah State by 48
vs. (9-4) Oregon State by 3

Florida
vs. (7-7) Hawaii by 46
vs. (7-6) Miami by 23
at (9-4) Florida State by 30

Oklahoma
vs. (11-2) Cincinnati by 26
at (0-12) Washington by 41
vs. (10-2) TCU by 25

Utah's NC Opponents -
Average Record - 5-7
Average Margin of Victory - 18


Florida's NC Opponents
Average Record - 7-6
Average Margin of Victory - 30


Oklahoma's NC Opponents
Average Record - 7-5
Average Margin of Victory - 31

[crques]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Utah is the only undefeated team in college football and they own a convincing BCS bowl victory over a team that was ranked in the Top 5 and at #1 for part of the season. I don't see how you can deny them. They beat the teams that were on their schedule. What else can they do?

[TheLetterZ]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

The main argument for Utah is TCU. Utah beat TCU 13-10, while OU beat TCU 35-10.

at #24 Michigan by 2
vs. Oregon State by 3
vs. #11 TCU by 3
vs. #14 BYU by 24
vs. #4 Alabama by 14

and it doesn't help Utah that they beat Weber State by only 16.


UF's big wins:
vs. #3 LSU by 30
vs. #8 Georgia by 39
vs. #23 South Carolina by 50
at #24 Florida State by 30
vs. #1 Alabama by 11



OU's big wins:
vs. #23 TCU by 25
vs. #16 Kansas by 14
vs. #2 Texas Tech by 44
at # 12 Oklahoma State by 20
vs. #17 Missouri by 41



When you total the point differential up

Utah - 46
Florida - 160
Oklahoma - 144

This shows how the three teams play in big games. Utah seems to struggle in their big games, therefore making them prone to blowout if they were to play Oklahoma or Florida in the National Championship.

It amazes me that you can analyze the teams' performance in big games in that much detail while ignoring the fact that Utah was the only one of those three teams who won all of their big games.

[Cardot]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

I would vote for a 5 way split. Utah, USC, Texas, thurday winner and Ole Miss.

I am putting Ole Miss in there because they beat Florida and Texas Tech who beat Texas who beat Oklahoma. I know that they have 4 losses, but the BCS committee has tought me that I can ignore certain losses if I so chose.

Great job BCS!!

[Cebby]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

I know that they have 4 losses, but the BCS committee has tought me that I can ignore certain losses if I so chose.

Who exactly is on the BCS committee?

[J0nnD0ugh]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

It amazes me that you can analyze the teams' performance in big games in that much detail while ignoring the fact that Utah was the only one of those three teams who won all of their big games.

Why worry about such a minor thing like wins & losses? That's just nitpicking.

[RaychelSnr]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Just think about it this way....

Let's call Utah by a different name...let's go with Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Michigan, whatever you want (I'm going with Notre Dame).

Notre Dame just went 13-0. On their schedule they beat the #24, Pac-10 Runner-Up, #11, #14 and #4 teams in the country. Where do you rank them?

Every sports writer in the country would have Notre Dame at #1. They'd be unanimous.

So yes, Utah probably deserves the AP Title based on my unscientific thought experiment. That doesn't mean they will though :o

[Cardot]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Who exactly is on the BCS committee?

A group of evil rich guys that secretly gather in a dungeon somewhere to rule the college football bowl season.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

No, they deserve the whole thing...no split for them.

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[MassNole]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Wow, the irony of Oklahoma supporters trying to put down the non-BCS team. How'd that work for you guys last time?

[auburntigersfan]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Lets not jump to conclusions becuase Utah beat an overrated Bama team.

Florida and USC are still better than Utah. I've been saying those are the two best teams since the pre-season and I'm not going to change. Even then, Oregon State and TCU had Utah dead in the water and Utah somehow found a way to win. Michigan even had a great chance at beating Utah.

With that said, I think Utah might be able to beat anyone except USC/Florida.

Utah destroyed Bama, much more impressively than Florida did. Utah has left it all on the field and has been more impressive than both UF and USC against the only team UF and Utah had played (Bama) and USC and Utah had played (Oregon State).

They deserve it, no doubt.

[Rocky]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Just think about it this way....

Let's call Utah by a different name...let's go with Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Michigan, whatever you want (I'm going with Notre Dame).

Notre Dame just went 13-0. On their schedule they beat the #24, Pac-10 Runner-Up, #11, #14 and #4 teams in the country. Where do you rank them?

Every sports writer in the country would have Notre Dame at #1. They'd be unanimous.

So yes, Utah probably deserves the AP Title based on my unscientific thought experiment. That doesn't mean they will though :o

The hell with that.....this could be Duke and they would still win the National Championship.

[J0nnD0ugh]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Wow, the irony of Oklahoma supporters trying to put down the non-BCS team. How'd that work for you guys last time?

ESPN.com has this question posed on their website. Guess the only state where the majority said "no"?

[MassNole]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Cept they play in the MW which is btw, just as good as the Big East and ACC.

Which would make it better than the Big 10 or Pac 10.

Not sure how you can call Utah's 13-10 win over TCU more impressive than anything OU did when OU beat TCU 35-10.

If we want to employ this logic, Utah's win over Alabama was more impressive than Florida's win over Alabama. They beat Alabama in a SEC city and environment, whereas Florida beat them in a true neutral site game. They beat them in a more impressive fashion, taking a lead early and not letting up. And besides, Oklahoma cannot argue against the merit of a non-BCS team. Utah is the National Champions, I will never recognize Florida or Oklahoma as even a co-National Champion.

[BigDofBA]

Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Absolutely. Beating Alabama and TCU is more impressive than anything on USC's and Oklahoma's resume.

Not it's not. USC won the Pac-10, which went 5-0 in bowl games, and beat Ohio State by 30+.

OU beat 4 top 15 teams by at least 20 and that includes TCU.

TCU should have beat Utah at Utah but their kicker missed two FG's within 30 yards. Oregon State had Utah beat at Utah but the Utes came back and won in the final seconds.

Utah just beat an Alabama team that was one dimensional on offense and had an above average defense. Why don't you think USC, OU, or Texas would have done the same thing?