Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

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  • Chip Douglass
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2005
    • 12256

    #166
    Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

    Originally posted by ZB9
    wow Alabama "didnt care" about playing in a BCS bowl game. They "didnt care" about being back on the national stage.

    that is absurd. You cant devalue a win because you say a football team "didnt care". (even if you could gauge something like that, which you cant, it wouldnt matter at all in this discussion)
    Especially considering that same win over "overrated and unmotivated" Alabama propelled Florida to the MNC.

    Double standards galore. Any irony in Oklahoma fans putting down a non-BCS team?
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    • Seahawk76
      MVP
      • Oct 2005
      • 1394

      #167
      Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

      Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
      Especially considering that same win over "overrated and unmotivated" Alabama propelled Florida to the MNC.

      Double standards galore. Any irony in Oklahoma fans putting down a non-BCS team?
      It's the same kind of ridiculous argument I've seen for years on sports forums made by those wanting to downplay meaningful wins. If a team beats a strong opponent this only means that the opponent wasn't really that strong in the first place and therefore that team still hasn't beaten anyone good. It's a dumb circular argument.

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      • fistofrage
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 13682

        #168
        Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

        Originally posted by Travis40
        You can't accuse OU fans of doing that, becuase Texas fans do the same exact thing. Even with 1 loss, Oklahoma, Florida, and Texas are the 3 best teams in the country.
        Yet they all lost and Utah didn't. Where's the proof that any of them could beat Utah?
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        • Chip Douglass
          Hall Of Fame
          • Dec 2005
          • 12256

          #169
          Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

          Originally posted by fistofrage
          Yet they all lost and Utah didn't. Where's the proof that any of them could beat Utah?
          Because (insert argument that Alabama was an unmotivated team, that Utah played in a weak conference, even though the MWC was probably the 3rd or 4th best conference this year, that Florida/OU/Texas would be a favorite (LOL, like Alabama wasn't?), etc).
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          • Chip Douglass
            Hall Of Fame
            • Dec 2005
            • 12256

            #170
            Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

            Originally posted by Seahawk76
            It's the same kind of ridiculous argument I've seen for years on sports forums made by those wanting to downplay meaningful wins. If a team beats a strong opponent this only means that the opponent wasn't really that strong in the first place and therefore that team still hasn't beaten anyone good. It's a dumb circular argument.
            LOL. Yep.

            Especially considering the same people would have then called Utah an "LOL SOFT MWC TEAM" had they lost to Bama.

            I also get the feeling that some people think Bama is overrated BECAUSE they lost to Utah, which is probably the case considering the number of ******** "They played in a weak conference" posts.
            Last edited by Chip Douglass; 01-04-2009, 01:14 PM.
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            • bkrich83
              Has Been
              • Jul 2002
              • 71582

              #171
              Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

              Originally posted by Travis40
              Even if Oklahoma was 13-0 with that SOS...they wouldn't deserve the National Title, and I'm the biggest OU homer on the site. Utah doesn't deserve it, nor does anyone who plays that SOS.
              Their SOS? Are you kidding? Their SOS was very respectable.
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              • fpac
                MVP
                • Oct 2002
                • 3830

                #172
                Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                I don't even understand why there's an arguement.

                Yes, Utah deserves a chance at at split MNC as much as anyone else this year. Unfortunately, they won't get it but anyone that says they don't deserve it is ridiculous.

                I swear it seems like some people in this forum just like to argue for arguement sake sometimes. One of the reasons I rarely post in the CFB forum anymore...

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                • Chip Douglass
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 12256

                  #173
                  Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                  Originally posted by bkrich83
                  Their SOS? Are you kidding? Their SOS was very respectable.
                  Yep. Please remind me of the world-beaters Florida and Oklahoma beat.

                  Oh wait, that same "uninspired and overrated" Bama team that boosted Florida to the MNC game? Texas Tech for Oklahoma?
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                  • Chip Douglass
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 12256

                    #174
                    Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                    Originally posted by BigDofBA
                    So I guess if Hawaii had played a scrub in their bowl game last year and went undefeated they would be champs.
                    So Alabama was a scrub team?

                    The arguments are getting more and more ridiculous.
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                    • ZB9
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 18387

                      #175
                      Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                      Originally posted by BigDofBA
                      It's amazing how Texas fans can ignore losing to Texas Tech.
                      you dont hear Texas fans in this thread saying they have a better case than the Utes. That loss is why Utah has a better case for #1 than Texas does. Ive said quite often in this thread that I feel Utah should be #1 regardless of what happens in the final two games.

                      If Texas manages to win a tough game, they will have the best case when it comes to the one loss teams, but they wont have a better case than Utah.
                      Last edited by ZB9; 01-04-2009, 02:47 PM.

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                      • ZB9
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 18387

                        #176
                        Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

                        Originally posted by mags77
                        They've been on the national stage all year.
                        You dont understand what im saying. The Sugar Bowl is a national stage, and it's the first time Bama has been able to play back at the Sugar BOwl since it's been a BCS game.

                        People "care" about playing in games like that, especially Bama. Saying they "dont care" would be like saying USC didnt care about getting back to the Rose Bowl after their pre-Carroll dry spell in the 90s.

                        And yes, when you are 1 quarter away from the NC game, having to play a BCS bowl instead is a let down.
                        lol so I guess according to you, no one should care about their bowl game except for the teams playing in the national championship

                        again, you cant gauge how much a team cares, but even if you could, it doesnt matter. That is not valid in this discussion.
                        Last edited by ZB9; 01-04-2009, 07:26 PM.

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